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Driver on 2-lane roundabout, signalling to go right, crosses both lanes and turns left at second exit. Indicator still flashing 'right'.

Several people needing a change of underwear :mad::mad:

I'm totally with you on this.
There really is no need to indicate right on a roundabout, it's a one way system and right is the only way you can go.
Indicting left as you approach your exit is all that should be required.
 

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I'm totally with you on this.
There really is no need to indicate right on a roundabout, it's a one way system and right is the only way you can go.
Indicting left as you approach your exit is all that should be required.
You need to give other people a clue what you're doing.
Indicate right if you're turning right. Indicate left as you're about to exit the roundabout.

Highway Code - roundabouts
 

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You need to give other people a clue what you're doing.
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Only when changing lane or exiting.
What does indicating right while in the middle lane of a 3-lane roundabout mean? And indicating right while in the right lane is pointless or even possibly dangerous.
 
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Only when changing lane or exiting.
What does indicating right while in the middle lane of a 3-lane roundabout mean? And indicating right while in the is pointless or even possibly dangerous.
No.
Imagine you're coming onto a roundabout intending to turn right, but you don't believe in indicating the way that the Highway Code and decades of custom dictate is correct.
Imagine that a car driver or motorcyclist entering the roundabout from the road opposite sees that you aren't indicating so reasonable assumes that you are going straight on.
Crash! You could have prevented it by indicating properly.
 

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No.
Imagine you're coming onto a roundabout intending to turn right, but you don't believe in indicating the way that the Highway Code and decades of custom dictate is correct.
Imagine that a car driver or motorcyclist entering the roundabout from the road opposite sees that you aren't indicating so reasonable assumes that you are going straight on.
Crash! You could have prevented it by indicating properly.

Or they could have prevented it by,
A) Not incorrectly assuming I'm going straight on or
B) Understanding how a roundabout works.
 

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If I'm indicating left, I'm leaving at the next exit.
If I'm not indicating, I'm continuing round the roundabout.
That's great, but you need to declare sovereignty and publish your own Highway Code if you want it to be the correct way to drive around a roundabout.
 

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If you approach a roundabout and want to take the first exit, then you indicate left. If you intend to go straight on or take the 2nd exit then indicate left
just as you pass the exit before. If intending to take the 3rd exit, you indicate right until the exit before and then switch to left indicate. That way everybody knows what your intentions are.
 

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If you approach a roundabout and want to take the first exit, then you indicate left. If you intend to go straight on or take the 2nd exit then indicate just as you pass the exit before. If intending to take the 3rd exit, you indicate right until the exit before and then switch to left indicate. That way everybody knows what your intentions are.

I think you're assuming everybody knows where you entered the roundabout, which is often not the case.
If someone approaches a roundabout and sees a car indicating right, he may not know which exit is the chosen one.
 

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I think you're assuming everybody knows where you entered the roundabout, which is often not the case.
If someone approaches a roundabout and sees a car indicating right, he may not know which exit is the chosen one.
Worse, if a car is indicating right, then the implication is that they are changing to the next lane on the right - which they are not!
No indication means 'no change'.
 

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I think you're assuming everybody knows where you entered the roundabout, which is often not the case.
If someone approaches a roundabout and sees a car indicating right, he may not know which exit is the chosen one.
If that driver, as he approaches a roundabout, sees a car indicating right he knows it will not affect him. He then indicates left just before the exit to be taken. Even more important if as you say, he doesn't know where he approached the roundabout.
 

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If that driver, as he approaches a roundabout, sees a car indicating right he knows it will not affect him. He then indicates left just before the exit to be taken. Even more important if as you say, he doesn't know where he approached the roundabout.

The number of cars I see exiting a roundabout whilst still indicating right is truly shocking.
 

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The number of cars I see exiting a roundabout whilst still indicating right is truly shocking.
That's as maybe, but done correctly it shouldn't be a problem.
I've recently retired from being a professional driver for the best part of 9years.
If I enter a 2 lane roundabout and want to go right or take the third exit then I will indicate right until just before the exit to be taken, then indicate left.
And never leave indicators right on. That's a driver error and doesn't mean you shouldn't indicate right on a roundabout.
 

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The sheer amount of drivers in SUV's or Range Rovers when they do most of their driving in towns and cities. These vehicles should be taxed way more than they currently are.
 

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I think you're assuming everybody knows where you entered the roundabout, which is often not the case.
If someone approaches a roundabout and sees a car indicating right, he may not know which exit is the chosen one.
If they're doing it properly a right signal on approach means you're taking the last exit.
If you don't know where the car came from and he's signalling right then you assume he's crossing your path.
To be honest I tell the kids that if a vehicle is coming from their right then assume it's crossing your path regardless of what signal may or may not be showing.
As I said earlier..80% of people get signalling wrong at roundabouts...it's actually very simple.
People get lazy, forget, get distracted.....but mostly its down to the 3 main causes of bad driving
Arrogance, ignorance and impatience or any combination thereof.
 

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Seems to me that people's answers are influenced by the sort of roundabout they are thinking of.
Meaning, two lane NSEW roundabout?
Or, three lane multiple exit roundabout?
The council near me have "adapted" the first sort to encourage heavy traffic entering from the North to better able to go West
Becomes a two lane approach shortly before roundabout ,on to a two lane roundabout , then exit on to two lane fast road.
Traffic wishing to so use the roundabout is told to use both lanes on entering the roundabout, and to stay in both lanes all the way round ( from six o'clock to three o'clock).
Poor buggers wishing to enter roundabout from the South have a guessing game as to who's going where.
Only safe situation is if the outer lane on R use a right indicator?

Edit - sorry got my E/W mixed up! Now corrected.
 
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If they're doing it properly a right signal on approach means you're taking the last exit.
If you don't know where the car came from and he's signalling right then you assume he's crossing your path.
To be honest I tell the kids that if a vehicle is coming from their right then assume it's crossing your path regardless of what signal may or may not be showing.
As I said earlier..80% of people get signalling wrong at roundabouts...it's actually very simple.
People get lazy, forget, get distracted.....but mostly its down to the 3 main causes of bad driving
Arrogance, ignorance and impatience or any combination thereof.
I've only been driving less than a year still, but I tend to do what you've said I think. If I'm going right (i.e. more than 180 degrees round the roundabout I guess) I indicate right until I get to the exit so that people know I'm not going straight on. If my exit is roughly straight on then I don't indicate right, I just indicate left before the exit. If I'm going left i.e. first exit I obviously indicate left before I even enter the roundabout.
 
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