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The commentary team as Sky has already hit unbearable levels - at least Rich Beem adds a level of sense to it
Masters 2019
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HomerJSimpson
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Then don't watch. I sense you tune in to be upset and so you can moan on here. Perfectly acceptable coverage of the par 3 so far
USER1999
Grand Slam Winner
I love the par 3 course.
With my shank I couldvtake out quite a few patrons.
With my shank I couldvtake out quite a few patrons.
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You love it really Phil, admit it 🤣🤣😂ðŸ‘
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That much I’m prefering to watch Man Utd 🤢 - the hockey was brilliant as well tonight
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Lovin’ Paddy McGinty’s comb over 😮
Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
Anyone who put money on Matt Wallace is stuffed then. 
Hoganman1
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This has been an interesting read for me. I have the upmost respect for all of you Europeans. After all, you invented the game. The Masters was created as a tribute to the history of the game as Bobby Jones saw it in the 1930s. Obviously, the course is totally different from the great courses in England, Scotland, Ireland and those on the continent. I've played in the UK and it's different. Playing the Old Course was a religious experience for me. Having said that, I also cherish the times I've visited Augusta National. I've been attending the Masters off and on since 1970. Though I've never had the opportunity to play there, I walked every square inch of the property that a patron outside the ropes can visit. It is and always will be my favorite major followed closely by The Open Championship. At almost 70 years old and having played the game for over 50 years, I love all the majors. My hope is that I will someday soon be able to attend an Open Championship as it's the only major I need to complete my Grand Slam as a fan.
Pin-seeker
Well-known member
Not long until the weekend coverage on the good old Beeb Phillip 😊
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Trying to compare coverage of sports is like trying to compare 40 years ago to today - it's a flawed comparison.
Compare The Masters coverage to that of the other Majors.....it's poor.
For me it doesn't add to the allure of the event, it adds to the frustration.
I'm curious as to why those who love it all so much don't want to see more of it..
It starts at 1.30 our time and we can't see much until 7 or 8 tonight.....and we're happy with that?
Many won't have access to the "red button" coverage so rely on the basic 4-5 hours a day
It's just not good eno
Agreed, you can't compare the sport. The equivalent analogy about the FA Cup would be asking for every shot to be shown, which isnt realistic.
I love the Masters. A couple of little traditions grate, such as the whole 'patrons' thing but they don't detract from the event really. The only thing that does is the restricted coverage, which in 2019 is a complete joke.
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
I get the frustration but it has always been so and coverage has been restricted. I simply resign myself to it each year and enjoy what morsels we are fed for the first two rounds. Doesn't make it right but certainly better in the era of the red button and in the internet. You are like me and old enough to remember days before social media, smart phones (these use to be the push button method of dialling) and the internet and so the first we'd know of how the early starters had got on was when the programme started
The red button action can now be watched on sky’s YouTube channel.
Last year all we heard when sky lost the coverage of the PGA Championship was that it was the way forward. Watching streaming services. Well you can watch coverage of featured groups from 3pm be that online or red button. I’m not sure I’d agree that many won’t have access to YouTube.
For me, watching the golf from 3pm til midnight is more than enough.
need_my_wedge
Has Now Found His Wedgie
Wish they'd dispense with that Haddock chappie pretty quick, was driving me bananas last night just incessantly nodding to every response. He has the charisma of, well...... a wet fish
Grant85
Head Pro
I love the Masters and as a golf fan, it is one of the most special weeks of the year. It seems to capture the imagination of non-golf fans like no other event, even the Open or Ryder Cup, does.
But there is no need to give them a free pass on failings that could and should be easily addressed.
The lack of access to the course and to the event is poor. Very few ways to get in and see the event and basically no way to play the course.
The elitism / sexism / racism around ANGC should be called out far more regularly and still exists in bucket loads.
The fact there is no Ladies Masters is completely unnecessary and in my view, 100% down to sexism. The ladies amateur event last week was obviously a step in the right direction - but isn't a pro event, and I believe only had the final round at Augusta. Also decades over due, so any credit they get is immediately rescinded.
The way they manage the media is very much a closed shop - if you're in, you're good - but if there's some negative press, then you might not be welcome again - see the 2nd point. The golf media don't want to rock the boat as they obviously enjoy being part of the event each year, as well as having the chance to win the ballot to play the course on the Monday.
The way ANGC manage the television coverage is shocking. Sure, it's generally good coverage, but not having full live coverage till 3pm local and 8pm UK is completely unnecessary. For example, we won't see a single shot on the front 9 today of Sergio Garcia, Eddie Pepperell, Henrik Stenson, Adam Scott, Tommy Fleetwod, Rory McIlroy... etc. and loads of other high profile players, contenders and major champions. You barely even see the leaders play the 1st hole on the weekend.
On a similar note, the fact there are no media allowed inside the ropes - so no on course commentary is at the complete detriment of the tournament as a viewing spectacle.
Crazyface
Tour Winner
What a totally delightful post.
Looks like 2021 would be a good year to pop over for The Open.
Grant85
Head Pro
And another thing... the field size. 87 players in the field this year.
The field is effectively the top 50 in the world plus past champions, and a few other winners of previous majors and recent tour events.
Given that;
* 11 players are in only on the past champion exemption (i.e. no other status, the only one with any serious tour status is Danny Willett, OGWR 78)
* plus Jimmy Walker and Martin Kaymer are in only on account of majors within the last 5 years (OGWR 102 & 190 respectively)
* that there are also 6 amateurs in the field
* and 1 special exemption to a Japanese player to boost the media coverage over there
That effectively reduces the elite field by another 15 to 20 players each year. So they are really only running a tournament with 70 players in it. Half the size of an Open or US Open.
I appreciate that part of the 'difficulty' of winning the Masters is that you have to be a very accomplished player to qualify for it, but even without holding open qualifying and letting a Todd Hamilton or Shaun Micheel in to potentially win, they could still allow another 30 or 40 players from the world rankings to make a deeper field and a tougher event to win.
And this goes for the Open as well as the Masters - but letting past champions play until they are well into their 60s should be revoked. It should either be a 10 year exemption or it could continue as long as you have status on a tour or can make a few cuts somewhere. The sight of Ian Woosman and Sandy Lyle struggling to break 80 serves no purpose to the event - even for the odd romantic moment of one of the old guys making the cut or leading in the early stages. The Open gets more of a pass, given they let in a lot more 'current' players.
I'd rather see Lee Westwood, Russell Knox, Ryan Fox, Ryan Moore, Cameron Champ etc. - who have won decent tour events in the last year or two, are ranked inside the top 100 and are genuinely elite players who could get into contention and possibly win the event.
The field is effectively the top 50 in the world plus past champions, and a few other winners of previous majors and recent tour events.
Given that;
* 11 players are in only on the past champion exemption (i.e. no other status, the only one with any serious tour status is Danny Willett, OGWR 78)
* plus Jimmy Walker and Martin Kaymer are in only on account of majors within the last 5 years (OGWR 102 & 190 respectively)
* that there are also 6 amateurs in the field
* and 1 special exemption to a Japanese player to boost the media coverage over there
That effectively reduces the elite field by another 15 to 20 players each year. So they are really only running a tournament with 70 players in it. Half the size of an Open or US Open.
I appreciate that part of the 'difficulty' of winning the Masters is that you have to be a very accomplished player to qualify for it, but even without holding open qualifying and letting a Todd Hamilton or Shaun Micheel in to potentially win, they could still allow another 30 or 40 players from the world rankings to make a deeper field and a tougher event to win.
And this goes for the Open as well as the Masters - but letting past champions play until they are well into their 60s should be revoked. It should either be a 10 year exemption or it could continue as long as you have status on a tour or can make a few cuts somewhere. The sight of Ian Woosman and Sandy Lyle struggling to break 80 serves no purpose to the event - even for the odd romantic moment of one of the old guys making the cut or leading in the early stages. The Open gets more of a pass, given they let in a lot more 'current' players.
I'd rather see Lee Westwood, Russell Knox, Ryan Fox, Ryan Moore, Cameron Champ etc. - who have won decent tour events in the last year or two, are ranked inside the top 100 and are genuinely elite players who could get into contention and possibly win the event.
Crazyface
Tour Winner
Why do you need on course commentary? Would you like on pitch (footie/ rugby etc) commentary?
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Every single shot covered and shown.
There is life outside of Sky/BBC etc.
There is life outside of Sky/BBC etc.
bobmac
Major Champion
I'm not going to judge it till it starts
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