Singlefiguregokfer
Active member
I enjoy LIV as much as the next man, but we shouldn’t have to only post positives. Nothing is beyond debate surely?
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SteveW86
Head Pro
Given the mods have stated that you can’t talk about “the regime” it comes across as you can only be positive
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
Not really. You can say the product is rubbish, can say the teams but is rubbish
To be honest it's what I've been saying to people for ages. Don't hide behind anti the owners agenda and if you hate it because it's rubbish it's much more valid a reason
SteveW86
Head Pro
Some people aren’t prepared to ignore who is behind LIV though. You can’t tell someone they are wrong because of their moral compass versus yours.
Singlefiguregokfer
Active member
Perhaps 2 threads should be created for each subject, one Pro and one Con.
That way people can post what they like unchallenged.
That way people can post what they like unchallenged.
Mel Smooth
Hacker
As I'm reading it, a poster has deleted their account - not sure why the mods are getting flak for attempting to control the direction of the debate on the thread.
There are still plenty of posters around to counter debate from both sides, let's move on.
There are still plenty of posters around to counter debate from both sides, let's move on.
Dando
Q-School Graduate
I guess it depends on who pays the most
SteveW86
Head Pro
I can’t see anyone giving the mods any flak
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
Not at all.
It's a more valid reason because people actually give it thought and time
The old argument was just oh I don't like that because it's that
Not giving it a chance, not trying it out. Not going you know what I watch enough golf I'm not interested, the product is rubbish. Etc etc
It's a more valid reason because people actually give it thought and time
The old argument was just oh I don't like that because it's that
Not giving it a chance, not trying it out. Not going you know what I watch enough golf I'm not interested, the product is rubbish. Etc etc
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Leftitshort
Well-known member
I wouldn’t watch it for all the reasons listed in all these pages.
Saying that you don’t like the product and it makes you feel morally uncomfortable is a brilliant reason, the best reason. I question the regime, their motives and those who willingly accept this narrative. Maybe some have moved past that, maybe some were never there , but no amount of advertising revenue should excuse this
I guess based on the above you’ve given it no thought.
Please discuss without abuse to each other and without wild accusations. It is exactly why it has been requested this be steered clear of.
You could always chat about golf..............
You could always chat about golf..............
BiMGuy
LIV Bot, (But Not As Big As Mel) ?
moogie
Tour Winner
Heaven forbid.....
BiMGuy
LIV Bot, (But Not As Big As Mel) ?
Amateur mistakeAre you new here?????
. I've had a word with myself.Leftitshort
Well-known member
Great point. Probably back to page 1. Conscious vs unconscious choice. I’m a hypocrite, we all are. My hypocrisy stops at proclaiming LIV the self anointed future of golf
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
Was listening to rick shiels podcast earlier. The novelty of liv does wear off quickly however they are fantastic at drip feeding interest
first people were interested in the idea of it. some got bored
then byrson signs.. now its like meh
then brooks.. wow brooks.. people watch.. some stayed
repeated the same with cam smith, rahm
even Kim. people were like oh hello. lets see how he does..
almost click bait with their signings
first people were interested in the idea of it. some got bored
then byrson signs.. now its like meh
then brooks.. wow brooks.. people watch.. some stayed
repeated the same with cam smith, rahm
even Kim. people were like oh hello. lets see how he does..
almost click bait with their signings
AddisonRoad
Active member
Something to back it up? Mel, I'm not even trying to be annoying here; it's just objectively true that LIV does not have good viewing figures. 200k people watching something in the United States is not good (I grew up there, for reference) — no-name university basketball games receive better viewership than that.
I'm not saying you're 100% wrong that LIV will eventually swallow the PGA tour. If they continue to spend an unreasonable amount of money, it's probably inevitable. But why do you insist that they have good viewing figures at the moment? The PGA playing field has been destroyed by LIV, and its product is no longer as strong, but it still dominates LIV in terms of viewership, attention from sponsors, etc.
You say I need something to back it up... is your evidence that 200k people in America watched on TV? Your own data proves my point.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
"Professional "
Leftitshort
Well-known member
Excellent point, neither LIV or the PGA have any impact into my chopping it around on a sat morning
