doublebogey7
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I was merely commenting on what BgDraw was reporting from that Shipnuk and/or other well connected journalists were saying.
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doublebogey7
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As you well know the PGAT withdraw themselves from the process many months ago, so this decision was effectively left to the reps of the Majors, so clearly they don't think this way.
Mel Smooth
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The Ryder Cup was fantastic if you are European, if you are American, it was a complete disaster with a weak team, with a weak captain taking an absolute pasting..
The Open was completely uninteresting - with hardly any drama, infact the only Major that had any spice was The Masters, with Brooks and Rahm fighting over the victory over the weekend...
Swango1980
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It was a disaster for the Americans because of the result, not the event.
There are plenty of other previous Ryder Cups, decades before LIV, that one team got a pasting. So, it was a disaster for one team. I suppose that was all because, at some point in the future, LIV wouldn't get ranking points?
Mel Smooth
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AddisonRoad
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Mel, you don’t get it - LIV isn’t a real tour. If a bunch of tennis players got together and played some corny exhibition matches overseas with a different format and a team element, they wouldn’t assume they’d be getting world ranking points. LIV players knew they wouldn’t be getting OWGR points by playing in this new exhibition format.
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The Ryder Cup was won by the team with no LiV players involved.
The Majors are part of the OWGR board. So they are the ones who have decided they don’t want to give LiV players points.
The meltdown is comical.
LiV could well become even more toxic given comments made by the people bankrolling it recently.
The Majors are part of the OWGR board. So they are the ones who have decided they don’t want to give LiV players points.
The meltdown is comical.
LiV could well become even more toxic given comments made by the people bankrolling it recently.
Yes, its no blow to the majors. It would have been, and they would have at to react, had more top golfers gone LIV. But as its stands, the majora are unaffected. They are missing no golfers who should be in them.
That key fact shows the low standard in LIV, and why it failed.
SteveW86
Head Pro
What exactly does he know?
The most accurate thing he says is that LIV events arent as deep, competitive or hard to win as a PGA Tour event.
OWGR has been around for quite a while now, its criteria for how to score points is clear. If LIV wanted to get points all they had to do was follow that criteria, its not really that hard to understand is it? The majors are still going to have the players from LIV they would want anyway, as they exemptions, but they will fade away as the majority are on the decline anyway. Cam and Bryson are the two that would stand out to me as the ones that would be missed.
LIV only attracted the few household names they did because of the money they threw at them. The players had a choice to make, leave recognised golf and take the money, or stay and play your way to a (smaller) fortune. I have no issue with any player who opted to go and play on LIV, but you knew the options clearly when you made that choice.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Correct. If it was a blow for the majors then this wouldn't have been the decision would it? They'd have come to an arrangement. The majors are not bothered.
Mel Smooth
Hacker
They will still come to an agreement to get LIV players in, it just won’t be via an outdated world ranking system.
SteveW86
Head Pro
They will still come to an agreement to get LIV players in, it just won’t be via an outdated world ranking system.
Will this be as accurate as all your other predictions?
You only think its an outdated system because it hasnt changed its rules to suit you
LincolnShep
Head Pro
It's a really weird decision in my opinion. The have a mechanism in the algorithm (through the tour coefficient) to award points that are reflective of the smaller field and shorter format; but they've chosen not to use it. The "world" rankings are no longer the world rankings, they're missing a few dozen players. It's frustrating that we no longer have a comprehensive world ranking system.
I don't feel sorry for the players, they took the money and knew the risks; but I do wonder whether OWGR have left themselves wide open to competition from a rival ranking body. Probably one funded by the Saudis.
I don't feel sorry for the players, they took the money and knew the risks; but I do wonder whether OWGR have left themselves wide open to competition from a rival ranking body. Probably one funded by the Saudis.
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Mel Smooth
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So Matt Fitzpatrick playing golf with his mum is more deserving of points than Brooks Koepka playing golf with Cam Smith?
Can you guys not see how ridiculous it is, to defend the ranking system. It’s operating at a level that is laughable.
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LiV set up a league that didn’t comply with the OWGR rules.
They have tried to make it look like they are trying to comply, but haven’t managed to cover even the basics.
It’s not that difficult to understand why they haven’t got points.
Regardless of your thoughts on LIV and where the money comes from, the OWGR have a duty to stay impartial, which hasn’t happened here in my opinion.
It shouldn’t be hard to find a way to give them points of some sort.
Its basically a PGA ranking system now.
It shouldn’t be hard to find a way to give them points of some sort.
Its basically a PGA ranking system now.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
And, as usual, it's someone else's fault..
The equivalent of Club manufacturers producing clubs that don't conform to the rules and demanding that the rules be changed to accommodate them.
As regards the non-awarding of points....can you rank the Premier League side against the best 5 a side team..?
No...simply because they're playing different games.
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But it has.
If I started a golf league and paid people to play. Should the OWGR give them ranking points?
wjemather
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Better to listen to what Shipnuck (and others) actually said.
