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[wjemather]

And to be fair to him, that was before the PIF/PGAT joint venture talks and the possibility of Newco simply winding up LIV was public info. Fair to say nobody saw that one coming. Similarly, that LIV would have no recruits for a year and find itself up a blind alley was not how people saw it a year ago when the Smith defection was still recent enough. Not many were saying that train would grind to a complete halt. On the basis that more recruits were possible, the OWGR would have becoming increasingly irrelevant, and so would have had to adapt and allocate them points. As it turns out, it just isnt an issue anymore.

There were never going to be any signings once the season started - and the final one was (31 year old, world number 35) Thomas Pieters, just days before the first event of the season. Then, the roster was fixed, barring replacements that come from a pool of players (Canter, Ogletree, etc.); and a trade window to allow players to move between teams.

 

[Deleted member 15717]

oh dear…

 

[Deleted member 25172]

#JeSuisMel #PrayForMel #StayStrong #NextTime #WeGoAgain #Lads

 

[Bratty]

Everyone back on the bus!

 

[Imurg]

The biggest surprise is that this isn't really a surprise...........

 

[Deleted member 21445]

This is a huge blow for Liv Golf.

If the framework agreement fails then this makes recruiting new players a lot lot harder.

Unless

The majors change criteria to create a path for Liv Golfers into their events.

They want all the best Golfers in their major championships.

This is a huge positive for the PGAT no question about that..

 

[TheDiablo]

This is a huge blow for Liv Golf.

If the framework agreement fails then this makes recruiting new players a lot lot harder.

Unless

The majors change criteria to create a path for Liv Golfers into their events.

They want all the best Golfers in their major championships.

This is a huge positive for the PGAT no question about that..

It’s the Majors who decided to say no. I don’t think they care, more than enough depth out there and key names have exemptions

 

[SteveW86]

Who would the majors actually want who is playing on LIV, had a look through the money list and I’d say 7 of them would be missed, most of those 7 have exemptions to play in the majors anyway.

 

[Backsticks]

Apart from the half dozen LIV players who have exemptions anyway, it shows how weak the LIV field is that none of the others there are a loss to the majors. That was probably part of the thinking, and made their decision easier - there is no need to rank them, as they are irrelevant. And with no golfers of consequence joining LIV now, the issue has evaporated.

(and kudos to Mel here who had flagged a few days ago that this issue was about to be resolved definitively)

 

[Deleted member 21445]

Also USA are a big supporter of Israel.

MBS has just put out a big statement in support of palestine.

Make no mistake that's another big spanner in the works of trying to find an agreement.

 

[doublebogey7]

This is a huge blow for Liv Golf.

If the framework agreement fails then this makes recruiting new players a lot lot harder.

Unless

The majors change criteria to create a path for Liv Golfers into their events.

They want all the best Golfers in their major championships.

This is a huge positive for the PGAT no question about that..

I am pretty sure you are aware that representatives of the Majors make up a majority of those on the committee who made this decision.
So it's highly unlikely any if them will give some sort of special entry for members of LiV.

 

[doublebogey7]

Not quite. As far as I recall, before the Masters, he said something about a decision being made sometime this year and that he thought LIV would get points (when that decision came).

If Shipnuck is right in what the OWGR board member told him and Liv are getting OWGR in April then concessions on criteria have to have been made on both sides.
Sure Shipnuck and I explained that though on the podcast between 17.50-22.10

Th second quote is from early Feb. Later he changed his mind and claimed that they would be getting points from July and that they would be back dated. When it comes to OWGR he has always got it wrong.

 

[Deleted member 21445]

It's a huge result for the PGAT.

 

[wjemather]

Th second quote is from early Feb. Later he changed his mind and claimed that they would be getting points from July and that they would be back dated. When it comes to OWGR he has always got it wrong.

Again, that is a distortion of what was actually said by Shipnuck.

 

[JonnyGutteridge]

Surprised we didn't get the inside scoop on this news!

 

[Captainron]

Can someone please check on the LIV boys. Don’t want them doing anything drastic.

It’s only golf

 

[Barking_Mad]

So the primary reasons weren't to do with no cut and 3 rounds, but the fact there was no change to the field because there was no process for being promoted or relegated from the tour. Also...

.... the committee remains concerned about the implications of conducting individual and team competitions simultaneously, and singled out actions and comments attributed to Sebastian Munoz during an April tournament..

Koepka led Munoz by a shot on the final hole and both were about 40 feet away for birdie. Koepka’s putt settled just over four feet from the cup before Munoz, needing a birdie to force a playoff but whose team led Koepka’s Smash unit by a stroke, lagged his putt to just inside four feet and made par.

“It’s weird, because I knew we were one stroke ahead on the team, so I couldn’t go extra. I knew I couldn’t be too aggressive,” Munoz said at the time. “He got the individual, we got the team. I call it a tie .”

 

[Backsticks]

So the primary reasons weren't to do with no cut and 3 rounds, but the fact there was no change to the field because there was no process for being promoted or relegated from the tour. Also...

The key problem, as I guess we knew all along, is that only a small hamdful of the LIV field was ever playing in competition with the rest of the world. So effectively all LIV golfers in a closed bubble are unrankable in any real sense.

 

[Mel Smooth]

A blow for LIV, a blow for the majors, and a blow for golf fans who want to see The Majors retained as the pinnacle events of the golfing calendar.

The PGAT has held on to the last remaining tool they had in their bargaining war chest in any potential merger agreement, and in doing so further removed the credibility of the ranking system that they are part owners of...

 

[Swango1980]

A blow for LIV, a blow for the majors, and a blow for golf fans who want to see The Majors retained as the pinnacle events of the golfing calendar.

The PGAT has held on to the last remaining tool they had in their bargaining war chest in any potential merger agreement, and in doing so further removed the credibility of the ranking system that they are part owners of...

It isn't a blow for Majors, just like it wasn't last year. You also told us the whole LIV thing was a blow for the Ryder Cup, yet it wasn't. It was a fantastic event.

The only truth in your comment is the first 4 words.