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[Deleted member 15344]

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When you add in the fact he hasn’t spoken to BDC and pretty made it clear that his 6 picks will be PGAT players then it’s going to be only a player that qualifies by right from LIV that will be in the Ryder Cup

 

[wjemather]

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When you add in the fact he hasn’t spoken to BDC and pretty made it clear that his 6 picks will be PGAT players then it’s going to be only a player that qualifies by right from LIV that will be in the Ryder Cup

I'm not sure anyone honestly thinks any US picks are going outside the top 21 (i.e. down to Finau) in the points list, but...

"...not able to witness what they’re doing and see their form..." outside the majors! That's a pretty embarrassing thing to say - unless he has been banned from attending LIV events and tuning in to any of their broadcasts.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

It's the equivalent of Southgate saying he isn't going to pick Kane for England because he can't drive to see him on a Saturday afternoon in Munich. I'm with @wjemather , Johnson doesn't look good with that comment.

 

[Swango1980]

It's the equivalent of Southgate saying he isn't going to pick Kane for England because he can't drive to see him on a Saturday afternoon in Munich. I'm with @wjemather , Johnson doesn't look good with that comment.

I'd say it is more like saying Southgate can't pick Henderson for England because he can't watch him playing against quality opposition week in, week out.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I'd say it is more like saying Southgate can't pick Henderson for England because he can't watch him playing against quality opposition week in, week out.

Southgate could also watch the games Henderson plays against the better teams. After all, the list of players going across is now growing pretty strongly.

Back to golf, you play the course don't you . I get your point but you would surely watch the key LIV tournaments, see how your potential players are playing. It is pretty negligent and dismissive to simply ignore them

 

[Swango1980]

Southgate could also watch the games Henderson plays against the better teams. After all, the list of players going across is now growing pretty strongly.

Back to golf, you play the course don't you . I get your point but you would surely watch the key LIV tournaments, see how your potential players are playing. It is pretty negligent and dismissive to simply ignore them

You do play the course. I'm sure there are plenty of top amateur golfers who can regularly go round their local courses in good scores. I suspect golf at the elite level is much more than just playing the course. The set up of golf courses for particular events, with a certain quality of field, may have a much bigger impact than we realise? I'm just thinking of Pebble Beach, which they seem to be able to set up significantly easier for the Pro-Am even, but can make it much much harder for a US Open.

So, perhaps it is easier to judge how an elite golfer is doing when you compare his performances not against the golf courses he plays, but against his peers?

 

[wjemather]

You do play the course. I'm sure there are plenty of top amateur golfers who can regularly go round their local courses in good scores. I suspect golf at the elite level is much more than just playing the course. The set up of golf courses for particular events, with a certain quality of field, may have a much bigger impact than we realise? I'm just thinking of Pebble Beach, which they seem to be able to set up significantly easier for the Pro-Am even, but can make it much much harder for a US Open.

So, perhaps it is easier to judge how an elite golfer is doing when you compare his performances not against the golf courses he plays, but against his peers?

If only there was a world ranking system that was fit for purpose.

 

[Swango1980]

If only there was a world ranking system that was fit for purpose.

Indeed, one that could rank the elite golfers, and also give a few token points to those that choose to play exhibition golf

 

[wjemather]

Indeed, one that could rank the elite golfers, and also give a few token points to those that choose to play exhibition golf

This is just returning to the bottom of the barrel of meaningless anti-LIV jibes. There are elite golfers on all tours and the PGAT is an exhibition circuit.

 

[Mel Smooth]

Ryder cup set to be tarnished by an ongoing stand off from the existing tours against LIV players- sad to see.

Bryson might not merit a pick - but to publicly come out with such a lame reason for disregarding him I’d pretty pathetic.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Ryder cup set to be tarnished by an ongoing stand off from the existing tours against LIV players- sad to see.

Bryson might not merit a pick - but to publicly come out with such a lame reason for disregarding him I’d pretty pathetic.

“Tarnished”


It will be more than fine

As with everything the qualifying criteria is well known

 

[Backsticks]

If only there was a world ranking system that was fit for purpose.

There is. Called OWGR.
But no system can allow for golfers playing in a ring fenced limited field that includes Chase Koepka types.
Some golfers have chosen to make their ranking unmeasurable.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

If only there was a world ranking system that was fit for purpose.

There is - the one the main governing bodies of the sport use against a set criteria

 

[wjemather]

There is. Called OWGR.

There is - the one the main governing bodies of the sport use against a set criteria

Har-de-har-har. I very clearly said "fit for purpose".
No-one with even an ounce of intelligence considers the owgr that at the moment (if they ever did)... unless they think its purpose is to promote PGA Tour players (which isn't entirely unreasonable given it's origins as a vehicle to promote IMG players).

 

[Deleted member 29109]

Ryder cup set to be tarnished by an ongoing stand off from the existing tours against LIV players- sad to see.

Bryson might not merit a pick - but to publicly come out with such a lame reason for disregarding him I’d pretty pathetic.

Assuming Brooks plays. Who else from LiV deserves a place at the expense of a non-LiV player?

And it won’t be tarnished, no matter how much the LIV social media fantasists try to say it is.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Har-de-har-har. I very clearly said "fit for purpose".
No-one with even an ounce of intelligence considers the owgr that at the moment (if they ever did)... unless they think its purpose is to promote PGA Tour players (which isn't entirely unreasonable given it's origins as a vehicle to promote IMG players).

It is fit for purpose

It’s ranking people as per the set criteria

The majors appear ok with it

 

[wjemather]

Assuming Brooks plays. Who else from LiV deserves a place at the expense of a non-LiV player?

And it won’t be tarnished, no matter how much the LIV social media fantasists try to say it is.

There's no chance they will be picked, but if any of DeChambeau, Johnson, Gooch or Reed were to be picked (and to repeat, they definitely won't get picked), it wouldn't be "at the expense of" anyone.

All have more than justifiable claims to be selected based on their performances; no less justifiable than those who will get the picks out of Bradley, Young, Burns, Fowler, Glover, Finau, etc. and probably more justifiable than Thomas (who many seem to think is a shoo-in).

 

[wjemather]

I know. Luke Kwan won a good good major and didn’t get any OWGR points. Total stitch up!!

*Kwon

 

[Mel Smooth]

Assuming Brooks plays. Who else from LiV deserves a place at the expense of a non-LiV player?

And it won’t be tarnished, no matter how much the LIV social media fantasists try to say it is.

Who dragged up the Ryder Cup discussion earlier today? It wasn't any of your imaginary LIV bots that you seem obsessed with.

To answer the sensible part of your question, I'm not even sure Brooks will be a good fit at this years Ryder Cup - he'll be the only one there, and will therefore generate all the discussion around LIV players being involved in the event. It would have been better to not have him there at all, or, partner him up with Bryson on day 1 and see what they have actually got - but has the the Captain of the US team hasn't got the gumption to figure out if any other LIV players are worthy of a pick, that won't happen.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Who dragged up the Ryder Cup discussion earlier today? It wasn't any of your imaginary LIV bots that you seem obsessed with.

To answer the sensible part of your question, I'm not even sure Brooks will be a good fit at this years Ryder Cup - he'll be the only one there, and will therefore generate all the discussion around LIV players being involved in the event. It would have been better to not have him there at all, or, partner him up with Bryson on day 1 and see what they have actually got - but has the the Captain of the US team hasn't got the gumption to figure out if any other LIV players are worthy of a pick, that won't happen.

“The only one” - once the Ryder Cup has started it’s irrelevant what tour they are on

The only people I suspect that will make it about LIV will be those LIV bots.

Most golf fans won’t care less and will just look forward to seeing great golf