For sure its about the money. Thats why PIF had to recognise that they were sold a pup by LIV. The golf world of spectators, sponsors, and money, said no thanks. So there was no money in it.
This is confusing, players talking about retro payments, I thought seeking money was bad, and it was all about legacy and tradition - what changed?
And that doesn't really change. None of the players have ever refused getting paid handsomely. The ones that stay loyal to PGA probably won't mind to much if PIF money comes into their tour. Best of both worlds, they get the money AND stay loyal to tradition.This is confusing, players talking about retro payments, I thought seeking money was bad, and it was all about legacy and tradition - what changed?
I thought during the last year, the choice phrase was "you made a decision, live with it" ?
Of course, you need to tie these comments to particular users, as I think most anti-LIV people just didn't like the golf.
If it doesnt go through, the PGAT would still be left with the players, the formula, the sponsors, the TV deals, and the tournaments that have a following. The LIV would be left with nothing.
Just the Ryder Cup, the Olympic Games and amateur golf then. Just pure sport, no (significant) money involved, right?
Thats the point that LIV completely misjudged. The money doesnt matter to fans. I dont know what they win. The 10M for the Fedex winner was the only time in the year $s actually were prominent. Yet people followed it. Because the win, the title mattered in itself. A Memorial win. A Bay Hill. A Players. A PGAT win. Whether they earned 10k or 100M was immaterial to the sporting value. We follow it for the sporting value. Not the $ in the winners account.
Week in, week out? Didn't realise LIV had 52 tournaments a year now.
You haven't looked that hard. I'm one and noticed a few others say that pro golf outside of the majors and Ryder Cup can do one. I'm struggling a little with all of it, to be honest. With all the poverty and other crap going on in the word, does anyone really think 7 and 8 figure payments are justified for being good at hitting ball with stick?
Could you list this weeks LIV tournament field roughly in order of player ranking, against the Can Open field ?
Yes, its justified. We the common people decide that they are worth it, and so pay them 7 and 8 figure sums. As we do for movie stars doing a bit of make believe, singers who write borderline musically worthless 4 minute ditties but simple enough for the masses to consume and enjoy. We choose to pay them those huge sums.
Whatever about the Monahan u-turn, a list of the non-deliveredables Norman came out with over the last year would be an funny read.
Money is mentioned repeatedly, and it's also prominent on the tour websites. Before the Fed-Ex Cup money grab (and it's ludicrous handicap start conclusion) was introduced, there was no points list - it was a money list; it was the same on the ET before the R2D, and many tours still operate a money list. I'd confidently wager most fans couldn't tell you who won those prestige events (and one of them was only last week) without looking it up, let alone who won the Rocket Mortgage Classic or the 3M Open (or anything on the DP World Tour, Korn Ferry Tour, etc.).
