LIV Golf

[cleveland52]

It won’t be played in Saudi - why would it

Because everything is for sale. (smile)

I remember being ridiculed for saying that the Saudis were trying to buy golf as we know it.......yet here we are.

 

[TheBigDraw]

It won’t be played in Saudi - why would it

Simple MONEY..

All of this is because of money..

If the Saudi's offered 10 x what The DPWT and PGA of America would normally get do you think they would turn it down ??

"Oh were growing the game by playing it there" they would say...

All of these party's will do anything to get the money, that's been shown by all of them now and it truely doesn't matter where it is coming from.

The money is the power in all this, make no mistake about that...

 

[Backsticks]

Simple MONEY..

All of this is because of money..

If the Saudi's offered 10 x what The DPWT and PGA of America would normally get do you think they would turn it down ??

"Oh were growing the game by playing it there" they would say...

All of these party's will do anything to get the money, that's been shown by all of them now and it truely doesn't matter where it is coming from.

The money is the power in all this, make no mistake about that...

Will players have to wear dressing gowns while they play, or only when they lift the trophy ?

 

[Liverpoolphil]

Simple MONEY..

All of this is because of money..

If the Saudi's offered 10 x what The DPWT and PGA of America would normally get do you think they would turn it down ??

"Oh were growing the game by playing it there" they would say...

All of these party's will do anything to get the money, that's been shown by all of them now and it truely doesn't matter where it is coming from.

The money is the power in all this, make no mistake about that...

The Ryder Cup won’t be played in Saudi - it doesn’t need Saudi money. Not everything can be bought.

Ryder Cup is Europe Vs USA - Saudi Arabia is in neither of those areas

 

[fenwayrich]

This LIV v PGA Tour idea. How does it work if some of the LIV people are allowed back on the PGA Tour? They could be picked for both teams!

One good aspect, if played along Ryder Cup lines, is that it would be a proper team event, unlike the current LIV fiasco where you could want your teammate to do badly because he threatens you in the individual standings.

 

[Backsticks]

This LIV v PGA Tour idea. How does it work if some of the LIV people are allowed back on the PGA Tour? They could be picked for both teams!

One good aspect, if played along Ryder Cup lines, is that it would be a proper team event, unlike the current LIV fiasco where you could want your teammate to do badly because he threatens you in the individual standings.

No such prospect. LIV will be retired. There wont be two separate groups of players anymore. The purpose of buying a share into the PGAT was to bring them all back together. There would be no point in a single corporate structure and still keeping the split fields.

 

[Backsticks]

Is Jay now Greg's boss ?

 

[Pin-seeker]

Did Rory actually say this? It is a random 3rd party on Twitter who is possibly speculating as much as most of the people on this thread.

Yep

 

[D-S]

Is Jay now Greg's boss ?

No, Greg’s boss is now Jay’s boss.

 

[Backsticks]

No, Greg’s boss is now Jay’s boss.

The way a read it Jay is the main man over the clutch of PGAT, ET, and what remains of LIV which Greg is still heading.
And PIF has a minority shareholding - who holds the majority ?

 

[nickjdavis]

It won’t be played in Saudi - why would it

Rumble in the Jungle. Foreman v. Ali. Two American Boxers

Financed by one dictator and held in Zaire to boost the popularity of another dictatorial regime.

Money talks....just as it did 50 years ago.

 

[IainP]

I don't think the Ryder Cup would, but the Presidents Cup on the other hand ....

 

[Swango1980]

Rumble in the Jungle. Foreman v. Ali. Two American Boxers

Financed by one dictator and held in Zaire to boost the popularity of another dictatorial regime.

Money talks....just as it did 50 years ago.

Probably doesn't matter too much in an individual sport, especially if the 2 boxers get paid bucketloads.

 

[Backsticks]

And monkey golf ?

 

[TheBigDraw]

If its true what the PGA side are reporting at the moment then Yasir Al Ramuyyan has sold his players down the river.

Bias aside do we think that is true ?
Agree to Liv being wrapped up and his players only allowed partial access to PGA events.

Or is it to calm down the immediate backlash from the PGA players ?

So hard to see through the fog until a merger is actually announced with an agreement.

 

[Mel Smooth]

Yeah, I can definitely see a scenario where LIV is abandoned, the players are castigated and have huge difficulty getting back on their respective tours, even though some of them are multiple major winners and some of the biggest names in golf, and the PGAT reverts back to what it was, minus a bunch of talent - all while costing the PIF about 4 billion dollars....

 

[Backsticks]

Yeah, I can definitely see a scenario where LIV is abandoned, the players are castigated and have huge difficulty getting back on their respective tours, even though some of them are multiple major winners and some of the biggest names in golf, and the PGAT reverts back to what it was, minus a bunch of talent - all while costing the PIF about 4 billion dollars....

PIF can write that off. They know LIV failed and they backed the wrong horse, so of course they know they have to take a financial hit. Thats business.
But there will be no castigation, and there will be a return of the prodigals. The LIV players will probably have to take a hit, and some of the capital injection in the wrapper will in some form channel to the players who didnt jump to level things out.

 

[Mel Smooth]

PIF can write that off. They know LIV failed and they backed the wrong horse, so of course they know they have to take a financial hit. Thats business.
But there will be no castigation, and there will be a return of the prodigals. The LIV players will probably have to take a hit, and some of the capital injection in the wrapper will in some form channel to the players who didnt jump to level things out.

And how will that benefit the Saudis long term? They'll have disenfranchised more people than before they got involved - the game will have contracted in terms of who it reaches out to...
That's nothing like the vision that Al-Rumayyan was talking about on Tuesday - when he said "We will have LIV, and we will have the PGAT",

 

[TheBigDraw]

Guys you can't make a judgement on this until the merger is announced.

PGA saying one thing at the moment.

Liv officials saying their events continue and they can now bring in the big PGA names to teams for their events in the new schedule.

Nothing from the PIF yet and they hold all the cards because they all want their money..

All sides are going to put out media to pacify their players.

People are believing what they hope will happen based their position in the divide.

There is as much chance that the merger won't happen at all because of the DOJ investigation into the anti trust.

It's all guesswork right now until its officially agreed and that's a fact..

 

[Backsticks]

And how will that benefit the Saudis long term? They'll have disenfranchised more people than before they got involved - the game will have contracted in terms of who it reaches out to...
That's nothing like the vision that Al-Rumayyan was talking about on Tuesday - when he said "We will have LIV, and we will have the PGAT",

LIV might have reached out. But nobody grabbed it. Thats why the PIF had to massively change tack. So no disenfranchising. The world shrugged with indifference at the LIV proposition.