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Sorry, are you really comparing Chase playing on LIV on the back of a package deal to get Brooks, with the performance of a qualifier having a once in a generation dream moment in a major ???

Chase is a touchy point for LIV understandably. A reminder that they just didnt get enough high level golfer to make a credible tour.


The goal of LIV will be to develop the strongest teams they can over time.

Chase Koepka probably isn’t part of the long term planning of Smash GC, but he had a stellar moment, same as Block.

It’s great to see, regardless of where it happens, isnt it?
 

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Sorry, are you really comparing Chase playing on LIV on the back of a package deal to get Brooks, with the performance of a qualifier having a once in a generation dream moment in a major ???

Chase is a touchy point for LIV understandably. A reminder that they just didnt get enough high level golfer to make a credible tour.

Yes I am, Chase getting a hole in one in Australia, and Block having a stellar weekend, capped off with that Ace, both fantastic moments for the respective tours, for players that will be grateful for the opportunity.
it’s what makes the game so interesting.
 
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1. Would Brooks Koepka have won the USPGA if he had stayed on the PGA Tour 🤔🤔

2. Has the lesser schedule,long winter off, less rounds allowed his body to recover and return back as the best major player on the modern era ?

3. Does the Liv schedule allow you to get sharp enough for the majors but you are super fresh in mind and body, less events, less rounds per event ?
Is this a reason the Liv Golfers have shown so strongly despite their lesser numbers ?

4. The PGA Tour is a grind, is PGA Tour players being asked to play far more rounds a disadvantage?


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Sorry, are you really comparing Chase playing on LIV on the back of a package deal to get Brooks, with the performance of a qualifier having a once in a generation dream moment in a major ???

Chase is a touchy point for LIV understandably. A reminder that they just didnt get enough high level golfer to make a credible tour.
He's certainly been identified as an easy target for those seeking to criticise LIV. However, I'm fairly sure LIV are not too 'touchy' about him, especially if, as reported, he helped them get the big fish.
 

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1. Would Brooks Koepka have won the USPGA if he had stayed on the PGA Tour 🤔🤔

2. Has the lesser schedule,long winter off, less rounds allowed his body to recover and return back as the best major player on the modern era ?

3. Does the Liv schedule allow you to get sharp enough for the majors but you are super fresh in mind and body, less events, less rounds per event ?
Is this a reason the Liv Golfers have shown so strongly despite their lesser numbers ?

4. The PGA Tour is a grind, is PGA Tour players being asked to play far more rounds a disadvantage?


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This answers some of those questions.

Clearly some players on the PGAT are feeling overburdened with their schedule, and plenty of them are openly admitting it..

It will be interesting to see how things pan out in the next two majors for the LIV guys.
DC this week, week off, then onto the US Open. That’s followed by a week off, then onto Valderamma, London, and then The Open on consecutive weekends.
They’re certainly not going to have to worry about cramming in any 8 hour flights.

 
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1. Would Brooks Koepka have won the USPGA if he had stayed on the PGA Tour 🤔🤔

2. Has the lesser schedule,long winter off, less rounds allowed his body to recover and return back as the best major player on the modern era ?

3. Does the Liv schedule allow you to get sharp enough for the majors but you are super fresh in mind and body, less events, less rounds per event ?
Is this a reason the Liv Golfers have shown so strongly despite their lesser numbers ?

4. The PGA Tour is a grind, is PGA Tour players being asked to play far more rounds a disadvantage?


Discuss


1. Yes - proved he could do it before that

2. Playing less events may have helped his knee recover

3. Will depend on the player and how they best find their form , some like to play a lot , some maybe less - it’s worth noting that players can play the same amount on other tours including majors

4. It’s only a grind for the players that potentially need to do well in a number of events to keep their card . It’s a competition at the end of the day



Right now LIV have the luxury of the Saudi money to keep the event numbers low , they need to bring in that level of money to keep the events low , if they have to start to fend for themselves then it could well all change
 

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He's certainly been identified as an easy target for those seeking to criticise LIV. However, I'm fairly sure LIV are not too 'touchy' about him, especially if, as reported, he helped them get the big fish.
Agree. I am sure it was a - if you want me, my bro comes too - deal.
Which makes a mockery of its claims to being serious sport if that is acceptable entry criteria.
 
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He's certainly been identified as an easy target for those seeking to criticise LIV. However, I'm fairly sure LIV are not too 'touchy' about him, especially if, as reported, he helped them get the big fish.

Well I guess it shows how the product isn’t that big of a seller for some when they bring in the 1000 plus ranked brother to try and get someone bigger.

It’s adds to the theory that the tour has a good number of “deadwood” or sub standard players.
 

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Yes I am, Chase getting a hole in one in Australia, and Block having a stellar weekend, capped off with that Ace, both fantastic moments for the respective tours, for players that will be grateful for the opportunity.
it’s what makes the game so interesting.
Chase getting a hole in one was a non event. I didnt even know he did. Pro tour events have hole in ones on a regular basis.

Backing up your claim shows LIV is in the world of fake new, alternative facts, and absence of reason.
But the real world isnt buying it.

The bottom line remains for LIV : they just didnt get the players.
 

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Chase getting a hole in one was a non event. I didnt even know he did. Pro tour events have hole in ones on a regular basis.

Backing up your claim shows LIV is in the world of fake new, alternative facts, and absence of reason.
But the real world isnt buying it.

The bottom line remains for LIV : they just didnt get the players.
They did get a third of the top-100 players in the world.
 

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They did get a third of the top-100 players in the world.
Which wasnt enough. They could have got 48. But if those 48 were from the bottom 50, it would be even more clearly second division. 30 in 48, when the rest a complete Chase types is just not a serious golf tournament. They got 5 great golfers, no question. Koepka is back to being one of the best 4 golfers in the world. But he has no field to compete against except the 4 majors. And we all love to see him in those. But the apetite for exhibition golf has heros past is very limited. LIV did not set out to do that.

Apart from Chase, they probably got 47 golfers from the top 1000. But that is a very diluted competition.

NOBODY disinterested, has endorsed the LIV proposition as valid sport. No point blaming media, or fans, or sponsors, or suggesting LIV just doesnt want to do deals too early in case they undervalue their 'product'. Its all nonsense - Greg and co have failed, resorted to fabricated spin, and the world has seen through it. The emperor has no clothes.
 

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Well, that was the first bit of LIV golf I have seen, so it did that. But...it does sure look dodgy. And the commentator says a hole in one was promised there. There is a subtle unnatural movement of the ball after the pitch mark. At worst, for a lengthy VAR in Man City parlance.

What looks dodgy is somebody claiming they didn’t know Chase had bagged an ace, despite previously commenting with some conspiracy theorist nonsense that the ball was rigged to divert it into the hole.
 

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What looks dodgy is somebody claiming they didn’t know Chase had bagged an ace, despite previously commenting with some conspiracy theorist nonsense that the ball was rigged to divert it into the hole.
True ! I do remember that. Didnt catch that it was Chase though. To be fair to LIV, that little bit of controversy did raise LIV to a level of having me watch that clip.
 
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A hole in one is a highlight for one single shot - it’s something that happens and the euphoria explodes and then it’s onto the next shot.

It’s not comparable to someone having four great rounds in a major , playing alongside one of the best in the world for the last round , getting invites to further events and qualifying for the PGA again next year

Even the likes of Micheal Jordan were getting in touch with him

He is a PGA Pro and he shone for the whole tournament and also threw in a hole in one in the process as well.
 

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Which wasnt enough. They could have got 48. But if those 48 were from the bottom 50, it would be even more clearly second division. 30 in 48, when the rest a complete Chase types is just not a serious golf tournament. They got 5 great golfers, no question. Koepka is back to being one of the best 4 golfers in the world. But he has no field to compete against except the 4 majors. And we all love to see him in those. But the apetite for exhibition golf has heros past is very limited. LIV did not set out to do that.

Apart from Chase, they probably got 47 golfers from the top 1000. But that is a very diluted competition.
I think we all know that if they got half of the top 50 (including half of the top 10), leaving the PGA Tour with the same, it still wouldn't be enough for some people.
They didn't. And while they only got one of the top 10 in the owgr, they did get about half of those ranked 15-35 (two of whom are easily top 10 players).
 

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Gotta laugh at Team Monahan desperately trying to turn the brilliant form of Brooks Koepka, since his LIV move, into some low level trash talk about his brother, who let’s not forget, is still a very, very good golfer by most peoples standards.

Haters gonna hate…
 
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