LIV Golf

[Marshy77]

Interesting exchange between Eddie Pepperall and Bland on Twitter

https://twitter.com/x/status/1650121497468362753

EP is spot on though - the ET have been trying many different ways to bring in the crowds and to change things up and to make it different

Interesting exchange between Eddie Pepperall and Bland on Twitter

https://twitter.com/x/status/1650121497468362753

EP is spot on though - the ET have been trying many different ways to bring in the crowds and to change things up and to make it different

Westwood has been very vocal lately and is coming across as a bit of a door handle but I wouldn't expect someone like Bland to be dragged into it. Opinions, everyone has them. Doing it on social media, especially when Pepperell is involved, isn't going to end nicely. Bland has been shot down which is a massive shame, it's not a good luck. Think it's got to a really poor place now.

 

[Deleted member 29109]

Westwood has been very vocal lately and is coming across as a bit of a door handle but I wouldn't expect someone like Bland to be dragged into it. Opinions, everyone has them. Doing it on social media, especially when Pepperell is involved, isn't going to end nicely. Bland has been shot down which is a massive shame, it's not a good luck. Think it's got to a really poor place now.

Aren’t the LiV players contractually obliged to get involved on social media? Blandy might not have a choice!

 

[Marshy77]

Aren’t the LiV players contractually obliged to get involved on social media? Blandy might not have a choice!

Not a clue. If so, you'd think he'd pick different fights

 

[AussieKB]

Amazing how all these people who don't care or want to know anything LIV related cannot stop researching and making comments about LIV, Pro friend who went over for the event said it was great and he has been to a few, also think a lot of people enjoyed it so why be a spoil sport ?

 

[Slab]

I enjoy watching coverage from the PGAT, ET, LPGA and the LIV series. There's a very small number of things I don't enjoy about each of the PGAT, ET, LPGA and the LIV series

I very much like golf

This thread makes me feel like I’m in the minority

 

[HomerJSimpson]

This thread cracks me up. For those so clearly put out by LIV golf, why continue the self flagellation after 10,000 posts .

Personally, I couldn’t give a monkeys about LIV either way, but it seems obvious that it’s introduction has benefited those on the PGA Tour (PIP, designated events) whilst getting some journeymen a massive payday towards the end of their careers. Good luck to all of them.

Some people simply have to have the last word.

Strange how there are only a few on here so deeply entrenched in their pro/anti LIV perspective it wouldn't matter what happens with it from here their view that it is the worse thing to happen to golf/a new approach will remain. Some aren't for changing and will argue to the nth degree regardless

 

[Mel Smooth]

Dicky B has apologised to Eddie Pepperell this morning, looks like he might have been enjoying the Adelaide afterparty a little too much.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1650252961812029441

 

[ColchesterFC]

I've never heard of this Bert guy, but with a million followers on twitter - he's obviously somebody

"It's all the cool players"

And it is....
I've really got into how LIV has exposed the personalities of these players, plenty of them who I had no time for pre LIV, I now find myself being drawn to them - Bubba, Bryson, even Patrick Reed - the guy is cheesier than the cheesiest cheese, but they do get a lot of time to portray their personalities now.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1650214993965760512

For me I've gone the other way and am finding that I like certain players far less than I used to. Lee Westwood is probably the biggest example and seems to have become a total whiney little ball bag since joining LIV. It seems as though he must have an alert set for any negative comments about LIV on Twitter as he's always on there sniping.

Also not sure that Reed being able to portray his personality is necessarily a good thing. To me he's always appeared as thoroughly unlikeable.

 

[AussieKB]

For me I've gone the other way and am finding that I like certain players far less than I used to. Lee Westwood is probably the biggest example and seems to have become a total whiney little ball bag since joining LIV. It seems as though he must have an alert set for any negative comments about LIV on Twitter as he's always on there sniping.

Also not sure that Reed being able to portray his personality is necessarily a good thing. To me he's always appeared as thoroughly unlikeable.

First of all congrats on staying up.

I do not go on twitter, maybe I'm old fashion but it has never got my attention, so at least I don't have to read all the shite on there, cannot believe people make a living out it, and how much is it to just get attention ?

 

[Bdill93]

The low standard of the field just cant be overlooked, no matter the amplitude of the razzmatazz. Regions, or golf developing countries, may lap up this type of circus. Sound and fury, signifying nothing sort of thing. Australia usually prides itself on being a serious and discerning sporting nation, so surprised they lapped up this confection. Or maybe they were just lapping the tinnies ?

The "Low standard field" has plenty of past major champs and big personalities that Id pay to see. Also, why "cant it be overlooked" like actually what difference does it make at all? Even if they had Morikawa, Hovland, Fleetwood, Speith, Finau people would still just say "oh its not 72 holes of stroke play, its not real golf"

Plenty placed well at the most recent major too.

So give your head a wobble somewhere else - LIV is not the PGA tour, its something different and the field is just fine as it is for this season.

I will say though, the Majesticks needs relegating

 

[Mel Smooth]

For me I've gone the other way and am finding that I like certain players far less than I used to. Lee Westwood is probably the biggest example and seems to have become a total whiney little ball bag since joining LIV. It seems as though he must have an alert set for any negative comments about LIV on Twitter as he's always on there sniping.

Also not sure that Reed being able to portray his personality is necessarily a good thing. To me he's always appeared as thoroughly unlikeable.

Fair enough. It’s all about perception I guess.
Mcilroy could be described in exactly the same manner as you are seeing Westwood.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

For me I've gone the other way and am finding that I like certain players far less than I used to. Lee Westwood is probably the biggest example and seems to have become a total whiney little ball bag since joining LIV. It seems as though he must have an alert set for any negative comments about LIV on Twitter as he's always on there sniping.

Also not sure that Reed being able to portray his personality is necessarily a good thing. To me he's always appeared as thoroughly unlikeable.

Westwood is an “interesting” one

We play a pro am each year and it’s run by Andrew Coltart - don’t need to say to much about what he has to say about him , and a few others with the same opinion about him

Even before LIV he was growing a big chip on his shoulder - LIV just allowed him to grow a second.

His social media interactions are very spikey at times

Fair enough. It’s all about perception I guess.
Mcilroy could be described in exactly the same manner as you are seeing Westwood.

Don’t think I have ever seen McIlroy talk to people on social media the way that Westwood does - huge chip and big arrogance.

 

[Slab]

I’ve not seem many headlines from westwood recently but I’d tend to believe that he more than most has earned the right to biteback a bit given the stick they all came in for last year from peers (dare I say some were barely born when LW started his ET career) and he’s got 30 years of the ups and downs of ET to base his opinions on

I wonder how long I’d put up with the nip nip nip directed at my decision to play on a particular golf circuit before I’d get a bit snipy back

 

[Mel Smooth]

Don’t think I have ever seen McIlroy talk to people on social media the way that Westwood does - huge chip and big arrogance.

McIlroy tends to air his views in tv interviews and Netflix docs. Doesn’t really do social media as far as I’m aware.


His comment directed at Phil M was absolutely tragic. Mickelson has obviously responded on the golf course, with some excellent golf recently. Meanwhile while Rory has gone awol.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

McIlroy tends to air his views in tv interviews and Netflix docs. Doesn’t really do social media as far as I’m aware.


His comment directed at Phil M was absolutely tragic. Mickelson has obviously responded on the golf course, with some excellent golf recently. Meanwhile while Rory has gone awol.

Which comment towards Mickleson? The one saying “hey F u” ? That one


And Rory had one bad tournament and Mickleson had one good round - is it not best to judge how someone responds over a period as opposed to one offs.

 

[Slab]

Which comment towards Mickleson? The one saying “hey F u” ? That one


And Rory had one bad tournament and Mickleson had one good round - is it not best to judge how someone responds over a period as opposed to one offs.

Like Lee Westwood for example, surely a true giant and stalwart of the European Tour and undeserving of the level of flack he received

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Like Lee Westwood for example, surely a true giant and stalwart of the European Tour and undeserving of the level of flack he received

The same European Tour be left multiple times to try and earn a PGAT card and then left to go to LIV ?

The same Westwood that used the ET to gain his status then jumped when he could .


He is no different to any of them - always look after themselves. How many players actually stay on the ET and fully support that.

If the players want to complain about the state of the ET and what it has had to do to survive then they should look inward at themselves first.

 

[AussieKB]

The same European Tour be left multiple times to try and earn a PGAT card and then left to go to LIV ?

The same Westwood that used the ET to gain his status then jumped when he could .


He is no different to any of them - always look after themselves. How many players actually stay on the ET and fully support that.

If the players want to complain about the state of the ET and what it has had to do to survive then they should look inward at themselves first.

Lee 590 ET starts
Rory 233 ET starts average 8 a year last 4 yrs
going to take a long time to pass Lee at that rate, so who supported ET more ?

 

[Slab]

The same European Tour be left multiple times to try and earn a PGAT card and then left to go to LIV ?

The same Westwood that used the ET to gain his status then jumped when he could .


He is no different to any of them - always look after themselves. How many players actually stay on the ET and fully support that.

If the players want to complain about the state of the ET and what it has had to do to survive then they should look inward at themselves first.

Yup that chap and that tour. Imagine the state of world sports if players were restricted from moving between leagues/tours/codes/sports etc once you'd made your first serious pro appearance

You might view this type of thing as akin to chucking donkeys off a spanish bell tower but in sporting terms I think its just called a playing career

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Lee 590 ET starts
Rory 233 ET starts average 8 a year last 4 yrs
going to take a long time to pass Lee at that rate, so who supported ET more ?

I’m not sure where anyone suggested that Rory was anymore supporting

Not sure why the response always seems to be whataboutary or some comparison to someone else irrelevant

And BTW Westwood turned pro a good 14 years before Rory so not sure how you can compare the two anyway