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Which players have asked for releases ?
And isn’t it because the event is not based in the US hence why they get releases for events in Europe and Asia ?
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Which players have asked for releases ?
And isn’t it because the event is not based in the US hence why they get releases for events in Europe and Asia ?
doublebogey7
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Not sure whether such requests have been granted, but if they have that would be completely in keeping with the PGAT long established policy as The Asian Tour has no plans to hold events in North America.
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Reported that 3 as of now unknown PGAT players have been granted releases by PGAT.
Alan Shipnuck on the news PGAT players have requested releases to play in the PIF funded Saudi International.
"Well, the PGA Tour is facing a billion dollar anti-trust suit that threatens to destroy the entire business model so now is probably not the time to deviate from precedent with this tourney and restrict its “independent contractors.”
Alan Shipnuck on the news PGAT players have requested releases to play in the PIF funded Saudi International.
"Well, the PGA Tour is facing a billion dollar anti-trust suit that threatens to destroy the entire business model so now is probably not the time to deviate from precedent with this tourney and restrict its “independent contractors.”
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This of course could be 3 PGAT members who already know they are moving to Liv ????
If not then it's not a great look for PGAT members to be going to an event regardless of which tour it is on that is funded by PIF when they have been so critical on the source of the money that funds Liv Golf.
If not then it's not a great look for PGAT members to be going to an event regardless of which tour it is on that is funded by PIF when they have been so critical on the source of the money that funds Liv Golf.
doublebogey7
Head Pro
The PGAT can't ever be right with the live fan boys. This granting of permission to play on the Asian Tour is completely consistent with their previous record of granting such request.
I know their has been much media and fan criticism of LiV funding, but I'm not sure I have seen any coming direct from the PGAT, can you point me in the right direction.
Mel Smooth
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From the top man himself, quite clearly associating LIV, and their backers with 9/11 here.
Incidentally, there's been a lot of conjecture around the 9/11 support group that operates at LIV events and intends to protest at Augusta, it was apparently set up in Florida, in June, and uses the same PR company as the PGA Tour - make of that what you will.....
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The players that are being reported as the possible 3 Golfers have not been outspoken against Liv so I don't see an issue for them individually.
It will only Stoke the rumours that one is/has signing/signed for Liv.
It just muddies the water for the PGA Tours stance on the funding of Liv when they grant access to their members to go and play in an event that is funded by the same PIF fund.
However having read more about it this morning the PGAT is between a rock and a hard place because if they didn't grant access it could severely harm their position in the anti trust case.
It will only Stoke the rumours that one is/has signing/signed for Liv.
It just muddies the water for the PGA Tours stance on the funding of Liv when they grant access to their members to go and play in an event that is funded by the same PIF fund.
However having read more about it this morning the PGAT is between a rock and a hard place because if they didn't grant access it could severely harm their position in the anti trust case.
doublebogey7
Head Pro
While I am happy to stand corrected, it is plain from that interview that their criticism of LiV funding is not at all linked to their sanctioning of PGAT players from playing on the LiV Tour.
doublebogey7
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There is no muddying of the waters at all, this event has previously included PGAT members and there's no reason at all why the Tour should change their stance this year.
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But last year the PGAT were not saying
"you don't have to apologise to play on the PGA Tour"
Emplying that you do have to apologise for playing in an event/tour funded by a country with a terrible human rights record.
Now they are saying to their members yes we will give you our permission to play in that event funded by the very same people we said you should be ashamed to play under in any shape or form.
I think most people would say that the above comes under the term muddied waters.
The whole golf landscape has changed unrecognisabley since the last Saudi International event was played.
doublebogey7
Head Pro
They are simply giving their members the same permission this year that they have consistently given in the past, I see no conflict there. I am sure Moynahans view of funding the Saudi International has not changed in that time, but I am equally sure his members haven't been knocking on his door imploring him to change the rules on where members can and cannot play.
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Right OK if you see nothings changed, let's leave it there ?
Mel Smooth
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That’s not the original point you made, you asked if there had been any criticism from the PGAT over the source of funding on LIV, and quite clearly, there has been.
doublebogey7
Head Pro
And I clearly acknowledged that what do you want me to do beg for mercy?
Mel Smooth
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Did you, it wasn't very clear to me? Looked like you were trying to move the goalposts a little, but whatever. As long as there's no confusion that Jay Monahon himself has associated LIV players with the 9/11 attacks through the source of funding on LIV, we're all good.
BubbaP
Occasional Player of Golf
Reckon playing in the Saudi International is likely a good way to increase your PIP ranking ? #lateralthinking ?
Might run a risk of some funky draws on the PGAT later though ?? #allegedly#speculation
Might run a risk of some funky draws on the PGAT later though ?? #allegedly#speculation
Mel Smooth
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That's a good point, although Charlie Woods has probably already got it wrapped up for his old fella in 2023.
Come to think of it, maybe that's why Rory isn't playing this weekend, nice little boost in the PIP points for doing the square root of frig all - he's not as daft as I look.
doublebogey7
Head Pro
I only asked the question re funding of LiV as I could not recall such comments coming from the PGAT, I was wrong on that. It had no bearing on what I said in the first paragraph of my original post and not sure why you think it should.Did you, it wasn't very clear to me? Looked like you were trying to move the goalposts a little, but whatever. As long as there's no confusion that Jay Monahon himself has associated LIV players with the 9/11 attacks through the source of funding on LIV, we're all good.
For the record I think Moynahan made a serious error of judgement in making those comments and should have left that sort of rhetoric for the media, as it has no bearing on the golfing case against the LiV Tour.
Mel Smooth
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He certainly didn't need to make that comment - the likes of Chamblee, Eamon Lynch etc are seemingly more than willing to throw as many grenades in the direction of LIV from the PGAT side.
cleveland52
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Yet your disgust and grenades for the PGAT and Monahan know no bounds......LOL!
