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Which ended approx 15 years ago ?

‘Establishment golf’ and golf media revolves itself around Tiger and Rory…

Zzzzz

15 years ago ?‍♂️

They are the two most bankable golfers in the sport - yes the media will revolve around them
 

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Golf media talking about the best ever and best for the last decade. Who would have thought ??‍♂️

Jack and Arnie get mentioned plenty of you watch enough golf. Shall we complain about them too?

I’d prefer to see less rather less fawning and mindless cheerleading in my sports media…rather like the way the BBC did Test Cricket in the past and the way Atherton, Gower and Hussain do (and did) cricket on Sky..

Got a problem with that?
 
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Yeah..Tiger’s peak years had ended approx by 2008…or are you going to dispute that too and claim that from 2008-22 is Prime Tiger > 1997-2007?
He was still at the top of the game through to 2010 winning majors and other big comps , then his injuries but then got back to world number one and was pretty dominant on the PGAT 2012 to 2013 when I think he won 8 Tour events , and even then he came back again in 2018 winning the Tour Championship and then the Masters in 2019

So yeah he was still within the top players in the game until he had his car crash
 

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I’d prefer to see less rather less fawning and mindless cheerleading in my sports media…rather like the way the BBC did Test Cricket in the past and the way Atherton, Gower and Hussain do (and did) cricket on Sky..

Got a problem with that?
You should write a letter to Sky. Maybe they are not aware of your criticism, and if they knew they'd completely change how they present their coverage? After all, their ultimate aim to to make their coverage as appealing as possible, so assuming your opinion reflects that of the majority, they'd definitely want to hear it.
 
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I’d prefer to see less rather less fawning and mindless cheerleading in my sports media…rather like the way the BBC did Test Cricket in the past and the way Atherton, Gower and Hussain do (and did) cricket on Sky..

Got a problem with that?

No need to be so defensive ?. It’s your opinion, you are welcome to it! Unfortunately for you, those two are two of the most marketable sports people on the planet, so we will hear more about them.

Jordan peaked 30 years ago. He is still the most marketable name in sports.

I’ll take your word about the cricket as I’ve never listened to TMS.
 

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I’d prefer to see less rather less fawning and mindless cheerleading in my sports media…rather like the way the BBC did Test Cricket in the past and the way Atherton, Gower and Hussain do (and did) cricket on Sky..

Got a problem with that?

Obviously been living under a rock for the last year with both the beeb and sky being major cheerleaders of the ‘new bazball era’ basically claiming we’ve reinvented and saved Test Cricket when in reality we remain 3rd best side (at best)
 

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This might be one of the good things about LIV. For fans who get tired of the attention golfing greats get, they can tune into LIV and watch has beens and unknowns knock a ball about. I'm guessing the LIV commentators don't talk about Tiger and Rory too much anyway?

There, LIV has actually captured a new audience after all :)
Classic bot speak - well done ??
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A lack of new events and new signings in the off season for LIV so far... They need to get busy!
Article in The Guardian earlier in the week suggesting they may just let it be, and that Saudi sportswashing has bigger fish to fry like football and Ronaldo. We may already have seen peak-LIV.
 

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Caddies are irrelevant in the LIV discussion. Its hauling a bag. Of course they would like to be wherever they are best paid. Its not that they win anything anyway. Their role is closer to the group scoreboard carrier as far as the sport goes.

What a crass comment, pretty much sums up the type of person you are though.
 

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Article in The Guardian earlier in the week suggesting they may just let it be, and that Saudi sportswashing has bigger fish to fry like football and Ronaldo. We may already have seen peak-LIV.

Would be pretty funny if they did just bail :ROFLMAO: Wonder what the players would have to do to get back on the tour then!
 
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Caddies are irrelevant in the LIV discussion. Its hauling a bag. Of course they would like to be wherever they are best paid. Its not that they win anything anyway. Their role is closer to the group scoreboard carrier as far as the sport goes.

What a strange comment - shows a lack of understanding and not for the first time
 

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What a crass comment, pretty much sums up the type of person you are though.
It was definitely a bit (a lot) unfair on the caddy, as they do a lot more than just carry a bag. Some more than others, depending on the player they are with.

However, I suspect there is an element of truth in what he said, insofar as caddies are not really relevant in LIV as far as golf fans are concerned, and the prestige / appeal of the tour to the public. I don't know of any golf fans who tune in to watch golf to see a caddy go about their business. Perhaps there are some, but not enough to give it any relevance to fan engagement.
 
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So the constant message from the PGAT has been you have made your choice which is fine but just stay on your tour.

Then news this morning that PGAT players have asked the PGAT for releases to play in the PIF funded Saudi International. ???
 
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