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To be fair, where is the progression path from the PGAT ?

The only precedent we have seen, is to LIV...

Though thats more akin to 'development' to the Champions tour really.

There is no “progression” as such from the PGAT because it’s the pinnacle tour in the sport and it’s not a developmental tour hence why the majority of its events are required to be 72 holes and have to fulfill the majority of the requirements to gain OWGR

Each sport has its pinnacle - the PGAT is the pinnacle in the sport
 

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This thread makes me feel as though I'm just a glutton for punishment. Its just cherrypicked points used to demonstrate one side of the argument or the other and the protangonists unable to/unwilling to understand any argument that doesn't support theirs.

Yet I'm still reading it.
 

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They'll get picked out by invite if they play extremely well. The points won't qualify them for anything.

In the same manner, Eugenio Chacarra may well get a Ryder Cup invite if he continues to play well on LIV, and maybe, he might get an invitation to a major in the not too distant future.

You've surpassed yourself there and given further evidence that you know very little about professional golf.
 
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Have I really?

It seems the European RC captain may well be keeping his options open.

https://www.golfmonthly.com/news/liv-golf-star-reveals-contact-with-ryder-cup-captain-luke-donald

He isn’t a member of the Tour so how can he play in the Ryder Cup ?‍♂️

If he leaves LIV , plays on the ET and qualified then he would play in the Ryder Cup but he has a grand total of zero playing rights on the ET so would need to find a way to qualify

He won’t be at the Ryder Cup playing - no LIV player will be
 

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He isn’t a member of the Tour so how can he play in the Ryder Cup ?‍♂️

If he leaves LIV , plays on the ET and qualified then he would play in the Ryder Cup but he has a grand total of zero playing rights on the ET so would need to find a way to qualify

He won’t be at the Ryder Cup playing - no LIV player will be

There's a court hearing in February that could drastically alter the landscape Phil. Matt Fitzpatrick has said this week that he wants the best European players in the RC team, and there'll be other players who feel the same - Rahm does for sure - both influential players I'm sure.

Never say never - by the time we get close to the Marco Simone event, things will have undoubtedly changed quite drastically.
 

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Have I really?

It seems the European RC captain may well be keeping his options open.

https://www.golfmonthly.com/news/liv-golf-star-reveals-contact-with-ryder-cup-captain-luke-donald

Have you actually read the article, if you have then you will have realised there is nothing in it that suggests he will be playing in next year's Ryder Cup? Even if Luke wished to pick him, he can't as he is not a member of the European Tour and I see no route to him becoming one while he continues on the LiV Tour, do you in all seriousness?
 
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There's a court hearing in February that could drastically alter the landscape Phil. Matt Fitzpatrick has said this week that he wants the best European players in the RC team, and there'll be other players who feel the same - Rahm does for sure - both influential players I'm sure.

Never say never - by the time we get close to the Marco Simone event, things will have undoubtedly changed quite drastically.

The court case is irrelevant to him - he still has no playing rights on the ET ?‍♂️ -

He hasn’t qualified to play on the ET , how is he going to manage to play any ET event ?‍♂️

Doesn’t matter what Fitzpatrick and Rahm want - they don’t make the decisions, the players managed to get a stay of execution but there is no doubt that the courts IMO will rule in favour of the Tour and not the players.
 

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This thread makes me feel as though I'm just a glutton for punishment. Its just cherrypicked points used to demonstrate one side of the argument or the other and the protangonists unable to/unwilling to understand any argument that doesn't support theirs.

Yet I'm still reading it.

And same small few refusing to accept another point of view or give any ground. Sadly reminiscent of so many threads on here these days
 

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There's a court hearing in February that could drastically alter the landscape Phil. Matt Fitzpatrick has said this week that he wants the best European players in the RC team, and there'll be other players who feel the same - Rahm does for sure - both influential players I'm sure.

Never say never - by the time we get close to the Marco Simone event, things will have undoubtedly changed quite drastically.

Even if the LIV players win their battle in the courts, I don't see how it will help the likes of Mr Chacarera who has never been a member of the European Tour. I just don't see how the courts could force the ET to accept future membership applications any more than it could force who LiV offered contracts to.
 

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Even if the LIV players win their battle in the courts, I don't see how it will help the likes of Mr Chacarera who has never been a member of the European Tour. I just don't see how the courts could force the ET to accept future membership applications any more than it could force who LiV offered contracts to.

Are you sure?
 

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There's a court hearing in February that could drastically alter the landscape Phil. Matt Fitzpatrick has said this week that he wants the best European players in the RC team, and there'll be other players who feel the same - Rahm does for sure - both influential players I'm sure.

Never say never - by the time we get close to the Marco Simone event, things will have undoubtedly changed quite drastically.
Sergio has burnt his bridges with the Tour, Chacarra has no status as has been said, Stenson has more chance of flying around the world on a sparrow, Casey, Westy, Poults, Bland, Gmac, Larrazabal, Cantor and Kaymer have next to no chance of qualifying even if they were playing DPWT given the talent that is emerging...Wiesberger, Horsfield and Otaegui have an outside chance - that's it......there's nothing there that would improve next years Ryder Cup over what we already have.
 

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He won’t be at the Ryder Cup playing - no LIV player will be
They will if profile players jump ship to LIV.

Like OWGR having to revise their system to reflect the performances of LUV players, the ET would have to revise the Ryder Cup eligibility to keep it relevant. But like the majors, they havent had to cross that bridge yet, as LIV has no Euro golfer that would be a miss to the team. As long as that remains the case, they can hold that line. But revise it, or move the goal posts if you want to spin it a certain way, if say Rahm, Hovland, Rory defected. They cant really afford it collapsing to a Walker Cup type profile and revenue as a historical curio only. But it looks like the RC is safe, and the Saudis that were going to jump, have jumped, and those there are rather up a blind alley.
 
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