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[Swango1980]

Great presser done by Cam Smith

Talks about pressure to win on liv.
Nerves being the big signing
OGWR points
Events history.

Talking about brainwashing, it looks like Cam Smith has done a number on you

Realistically, would anyone expect him to come out and say "I'm a made man, no pressure anymore, and I can just chill out and not worry about the result". Of course not.

 

[BrianM]

Talking about brainwashing, it looks like Cam Smith has done a number on you

Realistically, would anyone expect him to come out and say "I'm a made man, no pressure anymore, and I can just chill out and not worry about the result". Of course not.

Do you honestly think any player on any tour goes down the 18th thinking it doesn’t matter, I’ve already got x amount in the bank, of course not, his interview his relevant.
If you don’t like it or him, then that’s your prerogative.

 

[Deleted member 21445]

Wonder if these US businesses will get slammed for doing business ?

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[Swango1980]

Do you honestly think any player on any tour goes down the 18th thinking it doesn’t matter, I’ve already got x amount in the bank, of course not, his interview his relevant.
If you don’t like it or him, then that’s your prerogative.

If you read some of my most recent posts, you know that is not what I think. I keep saying, most of us get nervous in our monthly medal if we have a chance to win.

But, if you want me to be clearer, the pressure on LIV is nowhere near in the same league as other tours. So, from a relative point of view, the pressure is insignificant on LIV.

 

[Jacko_G]

Talking about brainwashing, it looks like Cam Smith has done a number on you

Realistically, would anyone expect him to come out and say "I'm a made man, no pressure anymore, and I can just chill out and not worry about the result". Of course not.

Or we can flip that and say Rory is a made man with his multi million bank balance and as a result cannot get it over the line due to not needing the money. Wentworth and now Italy.

Or perhaps we should focus on the positive of quality golf played by the winners like DJ, Smith, Lowry and MacIntyre.

No pressure to win on Liv PMSL at the ignorance.

 

[Jacko_G]

If you read some of my most recent posts, you know that is not what I think. I keep saying, most of us get nervous in our monthly medal if we have a chance to win.

But, if you want me to be clearer, the pressure on LIV is nowhere near in the same league as other tours. So, from a relative point of view, the pressure is insignificant on LIV.

Budgie seed and broken bottles.

 

[Swango1980]

Or we can flip that and say Rory is a made man with his multi million bank balance and as a result cannot get it over the line due to not needing the money. Wentworth and now Italy.

Or perhaps we should focus on the positive of quality golf played by the winners like DJ, Smith, Lowry and MacIntyre.

No pressure to win on Liv PMSL at the ignorance.

Well, if you want to make completely made up and bizarre arguments, go ahead. I assume you are talking about Rory not getting it over the line in Majors? Even the strongest LIV supporters know the Majors have more pressure than any LIV event, or standard PGA Tour event. And it has nothing to do with money.

I am sure some quality golf is played on LIV. Just like I am sure there is some quality golf played in practice sessions or pro Ams. Still not interested in watching those on TV

 

[Mel Smooth]

If you read some of my most recent posts, you know that is not what I think. I keep saying, most of us get nervous in our monthly medal if we have a chance to win.

But, if you want me to be clearer, the pressure on LIV is nowhere near in the same league as other tours. So, from a relative point of view, the pressure is insignificant on LIV.

So when Westwood went from potentilly winning a few weeks ago, to missing the play off, he didn't feel the same pressure as he would playing in say the Dutch Open.


It cost him about 3 million quid.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Pressure to win on LIV when he's just banked £100m...??

Do me a favour mate, stop talking from the posterior end.

He's not grinning from @rse to ear for no reason.

Do you think any top golfers feel pressure in the last round, last few holes or do they all float around the course in a care free manner? Does winning matter, proving your ability against your peers etc or does none of that matter when your bank balance is bulging?

All of the top players are set for life, it's not only liv guys with big money in the bank.

 

[BrianM]

If you read some of my most recent posts, you know that is not what I think. I keep saying, most of us get nervous in our monthly medal if we have a chance to win.

But, if you want me to be clearer, the pressure on LIV is nowhere near in the same league as other tours. So, from a relative point of view, the pressure is insignificant on LIV.

Pressure is pressure in my opinion, you can’t just control it because of money in the bank, regardless of any tour or tournament.

 

[Jacko_G]

Pressure is pressure in my opinion, you can’t just control it because of money in the bank, regardless of any tour or tournament.

Apparently you can if it suits your Liv bashing agenda. However it doesn't count the other way round.

Haters will hate. Simples

 

[Swango1980]

Apparently you can if it suits your Liv bashing agenda. However it doesn't count the other way round.

Haters will hate. Simples

Haters will hate. Is that the best comeback you have?

Put me on the 1st tee in a competition, just with guys in my group, I still feel the pressure and nerves. Add dozens of others around the tee box watching me, that pressure intensifies.

To try and say "pressure is pressure" is incredibly flawed and short sighted.

People rightly comment on the pressure McIlroy is under during Major Championships, in particular the Masters. Why do you think that is, if pressure is just pressure, end of story? After all, he would just be as likely to succumb to the pressure regardless of whether it was a Major or some minor PGA event.

 

[Jacko_G]

Haters will hate. Is that the best comeback you have?

Put me on the 1st tee in a competition, just with guys in my group, I still feel the pressure and nerves. Add dozens of others around the tee box watching me, that pressure intensifies.

To try and say "pressure is pressure" is incredibly flawed and short sighted.

People rightly comment on the pressure McIlroy is under during Major Championships, in particular the Masters. Why do you think that is, if pressure is just pressure, end of story? After all, he would just be as likely to succumb to the pressure regardless of whether it was a Major or some minor PGA event.

I think you've just defeated your own argument.

Pressure is pressure - correct. Some handle it better than others. Some miss from 3 feet for victory - some handle it better. That's life.

Some people thrive in getting it over the line - others succumb.

Cam Smith = best player in the world.

 

[Swango1980]

I think you've just defeated your own argument.

Pressure is pressure - correct. Some handle it better than others. Some miss from 3 feet for victory - some handle it better. That's life.

Some people thrive in getting it over the line - others succumb.

Cam Smith = best player in the world.

I think that post has just made you sound ridiculous

 

[r0wly86]

I think you've just defeated your own argument.

Pressure is pressure - correct. Some handle it better than others. Some miss from 3 feet for victory - some handle it better. That's life.

Some people thrive in getting it over the line - others succumb.

Cam Smith = best player in the world.

Of course pressure isn't just pressure.

For instant having a 3 foot for eagle you will feel some pressure, having a 3 foot put to win a match you will feel more pressure, having a 3 footer to win the Open will be much much more pressure

 

[r0wly86]

Saw a headline of Koepka saying that on LIV that caddies were treated like human beings.

Made me smile, there was nothing stopping you Brooks from giving your caddy better pay and working conditions, you were their employer, I can only assume you didn't guarantee accommodation, travel, and food because you wanted to keep more of your money

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Haters will hate ?? - it’s like being in primary school if that’s the sort of childish responses that happen now

 

[Deleted member 21445]

I think we all agree the Fortinet was a low level PGA Tour Event.

I assume we all agree Danny Willet has plenty of money in the bank.

Yet the pressure of trying to win resulted in a meltdown.
The guy is a major champion.

These incredible Golfers want to win whatever event they are in regardless of which tour and it's obvious to see when you watched the Italian Open, Fortinet and Liv Chicago this past weekend.

 

[Deleted member 1147]

"2022 Professional golf thread" thread
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"LIV Golf" thread
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Which tour is generating the most interest?
(And quite a few of the posts in the "2022 Professional golf thread" will be about LIV)

Isn't that because some people just can't help but argue - it's basically the same thing posted over & over again.

 

[Swango1980]

I think we all agree the Fortinet was a low level PGA Tour Event.

I assume we all agree Danny Willet has plenty of money in the bank.

Yet the pressure of trying to win resulted in a meltdown.
The guy is a major champion.

These incredible Golfers want to win whatever event they are in regardless of which tour and it's obvious to see when you watched the Italian Open, Fortinet and Liv Chicago this past weekend.

You are correct, I'm sure Danny Willet does not live in poverty. Still not in the mega mega millions that the very top golfers can command, but I'm sure he has enough to live a very comfortable life, and more than us peasants

But, it should surely seem obvious to anyone what factors come into play when you talk about the pressure Danny Willett must have felt. Has it not already been mentioned that he is only playing on the PGA Tour because of the spaces left by players going to LIV? If so, it is obvious he cannot take his place on that tour for granted. A win would therefore be absolutely huge for Willet, as it would help solidify his position on that tour for quite some time. Not just in any direct exceptions it would have, but also a huge boost to his World Ranking position (even 2nd place looks to have elevated him from 149th to 88th).

Cameron Smith would have absolutely none of that to play on his mind. All LIV supporters can do is bury their heads in the sand to that fact, and simply cry out "pressure is pressure" enough times, and hope they at least convince themselves. Just because a player wants to win every event they play (of course they do, why wouldn't they?), does not mean every even is equal in terms of pressure or status. Otherwise the Majors wouldn't be what they are, they'd just be another golf competition like the rest of them.