LIV Golf

[doublebogey7]

Not sure why some people want to portray Mickelsons career as failing, he's still a quality golfer - 2 under yesterday on a course that is clearly set up to be difficult - these guys aren't out there having a cakewalk.
His primary roll within LIV though, will be to act as a statesman/figurehead for the series. Pretty sure once the talent pool exetends then he'll take on the roll of managing a team, and dealing with operational side of building the brand.

He's correct here too, as much as the noise coming from the some of PGA boys (Rory) is unwavering, you cannot deny that the PGA Tour will never have all the best players in the world on their tour.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1570908516810096640

Says the man who has spent the last 5 years trashing the PGAT and its members.

 

[Deleted member 21445]

[QUOTE="Backsticks, post: 2547855, member:
But for all that, he is well spent as a top competitive force now. He wouldnt be in the best 200 golfers on the world now.
If his Saudi role is as a figurehead, then fine, but that enforces LiV as showbiz celebrity golf, not real golf. Thats why his involvement has harmed LIVs credibility not helped their case as a real tour.[/QUOTE]

Old father time catches up with everyone eventually but I wouldn't completely right him off just yet as his distance off the tee is still right up there with the young guys.

Did you watch his round? He is holing nothing on the greens and think he will figure that out eventually, he is also having one really destructive hole, yesterday's - 2 contained a triple bogey.

Been written off as past his best before and won the USPGA.
Class is permanent form is temporary.

Also Liv is far from all about Phil M now with the top players they have in the field.
DJs 63 yesterday round a 7700y course was super impressive.
Cam Smith chasing him down in 2nd
Wolff, Stenson, Brooks, BDC, Louis O, Westy all lurking to move tomorrow.

 

[PJ87]

See I like the fact I can just sit here with my PC screen and have it playing in the background

I almost dont want them to be picked up by TV because the youtube side is just decent (imo)

if they do get picked up id like to see it free to air still, and available via youtube aswell ..

shiels was saying in his latest podcast atm with the cost of living a free to watch tour could favour a lot of people

 

[ColchesterFC]

See I like the fact I can just sit here with my PC screen and have it playing in the background

I almost dont want them to be picked up by TV because the youtube side is just decent (imo)

if they do get picked up id like to see it free to air still, and available via youtube aswell ..

shiels was saying in his latest podcast atm with the cost of living a free to watch tour could favour a lot of people

Rumours yesterday that Fox Sports were in discussions to show it. No idea what that would mean in terms of it being free to air.

 

[Deleted member 21445]

See I like the fact I can just sit here with my PC screen and have it playing in the background

I almost dont want them to be picked up by TV because the youtube side is just decent (imo)

if they do get picked up id like to see it free to air still, and available via youtube aswell ..

shiels was saying in his latest podcast atm with the cost of living a free to watch tour could favour a lot of people

Totally agree..
The accessibility of YouTube ties in with their growing the game mantra as anybody can watch it anywhere in the world..

Lahiri and Neumann mentioned it in their press conferences that more people are able to watch them play in India and Chile..

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Rumours yesterday that Fox Sports were in discussions to show it. No idea what that would mean in terms of it being free to air.

As soon as the media rights are bought then it’s going to be subscribed and also adverts

They aren’t going to pay a fortune for it and then give it away for free

Is Fox the pro Trump one ?

 

[Mel Smooth]

Totally agree..
The accessibility of YouTube ties in with their growing the game mantra as anybody can watch it anywhere in the world..

Lahiri and Neumann mentioned it in their press conferences that more people are able to watch them play in India and Chile..

I don't think there's the space in the broadcast for a lot of adverts anyway, something that 72 hole conventional play does allow. There are occasional "promo pieces" that run in the LIV broadcast where you could see they might slot some ad space in, but the format would be too fragmented with adverts every few minutes.

Keeping it relatively accesible will be key to building it's popularity. I suspect by the time the 2023 series starts it'll be alot clearer, more players on board, more sponsors etc, who will have an interest in accessing the most appropriate markets.

 

[Deleted member 21445]

As soon as the media rights are bought then it’s going to be subscribed and also adverts

They aren’t going to pay a fortune for it and then give it away for free

Is Fox the pro Trump one ?

If they go with another paid for streaming service like Amazon or Netflix there is no need fo adverts..

A TV deal will announced before 2023 where it will all become clear..

 

[Deleted member 15344]

If they go with another paid for streaming service like Amazon or Netflix there is no need fo adverts..

A TV deal will announced before 2023 where it will all become clear..

Don’t expect either to pay for it - don’t know what live sport Netflix does

I don't think there's the space in the broadcast for a lot of adverts anyway, something that 72 hole conventional play does allow. There are occasional "promo pieces" that run in the LIV broadcast where you could see they might slot some ad space in, but the format would be too fragmented with adverts every few minutes.

Keeping it relatively accesible will be key to building it's popularity. I suspect by the time the 2023 series starts it'll be alot clearer, more players on board, more sponsors etc, who will have an interest in accessing the most appropriate markets.

if a media company spends money buying then they will need a return - adverts and subscriptions do that , same with sponsers etc - they will need to be visible

 

[Deleted member 21445]

Don’t expect either to pay for it - don’t know what live sport Netflix does
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Yeah agree Amazon seems most likely streaming wise as they are looking for sport with already doing premier league and atp tennis

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Seems Apple TV turned it down due to how toxic it all is - think Amazon will think along the same lines - hence why Fox involved , not sure how it will broadcast in uk - maybe Dazn or You Tube premier , but people will have to pay for it next year Imo

 

[Mel Smooth]

One for the rules gurus.

Is this PGA Bot trying to drop DJ in the brown, or does he have a point?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1570884978904530945

 

[PJ87]

Seems Apple TV turned it down due to how toxic it all is - think Amazon will think along the same lines - hence why Fox involved , not sure how it will broadcast in uk - maybe Dazn or You Tube premier , but people will have to pay for it next year Imo

jezz if people think LIV is a joke then apple TV turning them down isnt such a big deal.. its probably the worst streaming service available with limited content and not many viewers

Liv would be better off sticking it out for free than using that..

 

[Beezerk]

Not a rules guru but it's hard to see any problem with that

Ditto, it’s not he’s pushing his club down behind the ball like someone else did recently, he’s just resting it naturally.

 

[JonnyGutteridge]

One for the rules gurus.

Is this PGA Bot trying to drop DJ in the brown, or does he have a point?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1570884978904530945

Can’t see any problem with that - had to rewatch it to check I hadn’t missed something?!

 

[doublebogey7]

One for the rules gurus.

Is this PGA Bot trying to drop DJ in the brown, or does he have a point?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1570884978904530945

Says the LIV Bot!??
Guessing he's referring to the flicking away of debris which would be a problem if it effected his CATs, but looks ok to me.

 

[Skipper sy5]

Does anyone know or care whats happening in LIV golf the players seem to have descended into obscurity which for sportsmen must be dissapointing and if tyey are allowed to play najors tgat would be an absolute disgrace i wouldnt play with them we may not be able to stop them but give them the early morning starts or the late starts

 

[Deleted member 21445]

Does anyone know or care whats happening in LIV golf the players seem to have descended into obscurity which for sportsmen must be dissapointing and if tyey are allowed to play najors tgat would be an absolute disgrace i wouldnt play with them we may not be able to stop them but give them the early morning starts or the late starts

Yes the 1st 2 events were not that great.

The Bedminster event was good, the next Boston event was very good, the current Chicago event is shaping up nicely with all the big names near the top.

 

[Oddsocks]

If it makes you guys feel better, SA have just invested into media rights and sponsorship of a much lower grade sport, motocross. This series has been struggling for years and the SA’s have just purchased broadcasting rights (for what is one of the smallest resale markets globally for that sport) as well as investing at least 1 SA sponsor into the series to inject privateer prize money.

It’s something this sport has needed for decades and I see very little to gain for SA/SA sponsors, maybe they really are pushing for change!

Does this make me an SA-bot , liv-bot or pga-antibot as it’s all getting confusing?

And now the plot thickens with another rival series to take on the main series in the states,

Anything look familiar?

* Saudi funded via PIF

* Hires established famous AUSTRALIAN to head up the business.

* Originally intended as a non rival series off season and subsequently 180* to a full rival season for 23/24.

* Huge purse (25x standard event) - normal winner gets £40k, new series winner gets £250k

*Huge one off appearance money. (Some rumoured £150k per round)

* high profile riders having sponsors withdrawn as it wants to support its organising bodies.

* bully tactics to teams that don’t join.

* and the crunch point….. key top level riders get to own part of the venture if they support from the off.

Somehow the organising bodies are funding increased purses for existing events (also sounds familiar)

Looks like the SA’s and PIF are intending to rock high profile and low profile sports…. I’ve pretty much 180* my views on liv.

 

[Deleted member 21445]