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Not as rich as LIV though, and the new priposals seem like copying LIV.

Some positives,
Minor tour structure to support relegation and promotion,
Potential to add interest to 'lesser' events, some success elsewhere i.e. Rolex series on the European tour.

Negatives
Just the same as LIV but with less money
Will the reduced feilds etc mean its harder to exclude LIV from majors/OWGR.

Be interesting to see how long a proposal takes...

A lot of it right now is unknown as it’s all just rumour

Not a far of creating more elite comps with more money

As for the OWGR and LIV

They have a good number of hurdles to get through yet

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Have you failed to notice that some of the teams are already representing the countries or areas of the players that are in them?

No I haven’t failed to notice that some of the teams have been contrived to contain players from the same country, which is not necessarily the same as representing the country.

I also haven’t failed to notice that by definition, if only some of them are representing a country or area, then some of them are not and therefore people are unlikely to have an affiliation with them, as per the original point.

Well your original point was that the teams exist to stick two fingers up to the PGA tour, which has absolutely no correlation to what you’ve just said.

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An unbelievably daft set of reasoning that suggests, to me, that the team concept isn't even believed in by LIV advocates!
 
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Nobody believes the team thing has a future. Id say even the paid LIV advocates are wishing it would go away. They just come across as fools when trying to defend it.
 
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Yet contradicts virtually every one of his 'in the know' predictions from a few hours earlier! Finger on a pulse maybe. But lilely different patients from the one that matters (ones that matter)!

What’s the saying?

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day?

Make enough predictions and you are bound to get somewhere near to being right. Then with a bit of spin people like our Mel will believe and spread every word like it’s gospel.
 

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Nobody believes the team think has a future. Id say even the paid LIV advocates are wishing it would go away. They just come across as fools when trying to defend it.
I'm sure there'll be a funding aspect to the team concept that has yet to be announced - as it's likely still being formulated/negotiated. Once that is in place, then there's some, albeit skewed, logic to the format - as, currently, LIV is simply a massive complete drag on, admittedly massive, PIF funds. There will be a plan for some sort of earnings to offset at least some of that drag.
 

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A lot of it right now is unknown as it’s all just rumour

Not a far of creating more elite comps with more money

As for the OWGR and LIV

They have a good number of hurdles to get through yet

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Nice, I've being wanting to have sight of those "rules & governance" for a bit.
Whilst it is still gossip, it sounds like the new PGA T plans as currently speculated might also fall fowl of some of those. Interesting times.
 
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Nice, I've being wanting to have sight of those "rules & governance" for a bit.
Whilst it is still gossip, it sounds like the new PGA T plans as currently speculated might also fall fowl of some of those. Interesting times.

Yep - I’m not sure if it’s about averaging out over the season because the WGCs already have no cut and small field etc
 

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As for the OWGR and LIV

They have a good number of hurdles to get through yet

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Those seem pretty fundamental issues, which would mean that LIV would need to make fundamental changes - in fact, becoming like all other tours - in order to comply!
I can't see that happening, so something would have to change.
The effect of any more LIV recruits that occur after FedEx could be interesting - though with, supposedly, a full crew for the rest of this year and 2023 in place (the silence of 'rejects' might have been bought) it'll be interesting to see who is at LIV Boston, unsurprisingly scheduled for the week after the Tour Championship with, no doubt, announcements very soon after that tournament ends.:rolleyes:
Now, where's Mel with the reassurance that either the rules will change or LIV will comply with them so the LIV circus can be awarded OWGR points?
 
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I dont think the ranking points are an issue. The majors will just have another strand to qualify, like they do for amateurs. Anyone on LiV who 'wins' for example. Or top 10 LiV players if there is a money list or table. With those, plus major winners, it will ensure any players that should be there, are there.
 

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Those seem pretty fundamental issues, which would mean that LIV would need to make fundamental changes - in fact, becoming like all other tours - in order to comply!
I can't see that happening, so something would have to change.
The effect of any more LIV recruits that occur after FedEx could be interesting - though with, supposedly, a full crew for the rest of this year and 2023 in place (the silence of 'rejects' might have been bought) it'll be interesting to see who is at LIV Boston, unsurprisingly scheduled for the week after the Tour Championship with, no doubt, announcements very soon after that tournament ends.:rolleyes:
Now, where's Mel with the reassurance that either the rules will change or LIV will comply with them so the LIV circus can be awarded OWGR points?

Are OWGR points getting awarded at this weekends Tour championship?
 

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Are OWGR points getting awarded at this weekends Tour championship?
Yeah. The Tour Championship is part of a "legitimate" tour, and the players playing on it qualified to be on it by playing well throughout the year, and over the last few weeks. It would be very strange if they did not offer world ranking points.

Conversely, if I asked about 45 of my mates to play in a tournament, but also managed to get Bryson, Phil and Brooks to play, offering World Ranking points would seem a bizarre decision. Sure, I'd happily accept some world ranking points for finishing 4th, simply based on the fact that those 3 were playing in the field. But, I'd feel a bit of a fraud.
 
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Are the ranking points awarded for gross score event or the handicapped event?
 

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There's already been 2 (or maybe 3) cuts in order to get into this tournament.
As it's the OWGR that decides which tours and tournaments qualify, i suggest you direct further questions to them!

So it’s a no cut event.

Precedent set for LIV events then. That’s all I was trying to clear up. ?
 
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