LIV Golf

[Mel Smooth]

So you are arguing that its a stength of the Saudi tour not to be behind a paywall, and that it will be an even greater strength to be behind one when it is.
Sounds like Boris speak : we are stronger in the EU until we are out and then we are stronger out.

While it’s in its infancy, yes, it’s great that it’s free to watch and very easily accessible. When they get a TV deal they will have validated their product and taken it up a level. However, the business model isn’t the same as the other tours, we may see something different from LIV.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1544328766222176257

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And at least McDowell is honest

 

[Backsticks]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1544328766222176257

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And at least McDowell is honest

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Not quite sure what his point is. If you are 150th, you can really expect to be making the mega cash. Is it a sense of entitlement that as a major winner, and now on the wane, he should be on big bucks despite the performances.
Thats part of what is wrong with LIV. All well and good if the had the clear top 50 world golfers. But if they had, Gmac wouldnt be part of it. So its an acknowledgement from him, that since he is, it is a low standard event, borderline champions tour / exhibition of guys whose best years are well behind them.
I dont fault him for signing up for the big money. But it lowers its credibility as world sport that he is in it.

 

[Ethan]

GMac is being honest,. He can't cut it on the main Tour anymore, so he may as well go and cash in on the exhibition circuit, and so long as you ignore where the money is coming from, happy days.

 

[timd77]

Great interview that from Horschel. Very passionate and you can tell he’s upset by what’s going on and being said.

What an absolute mess our game is in.

 

[Backsticks]

That seems to be it. The least of their problems these days, but Saudi cant be too happy with him acknowledging he isnt up to PGA tour anymore, but that he is up (down) to LIV level.

 

[doublebogey7]

It is not my argument to make. It would be a personal argument by a player potentially. I was simply seeing a point of view that, they turn up for some relatively minor PGA event that they would probably rather do without from a purely golfing point of view. But, they do so to keep their sponsors, PGA Tour sponsors, etc happy in the main. The sponsors obviously wanting to see them there to create more interest in the tournament. Then, if that player misses the cut, they might see it as a complete waste of their time.

I'm not saying I agree with that point of view. The big players have already made themselves extremely wealthy, with the PGA Tour that vehicle to get them there. I'm just saying that when they get to the stage of being a high profile player, they would like more reward for the PGA Tour using that players pulling power. Not sure if this was along the lines of what Mickleson was getting at originally, when he took a swipe at the PGA Tour and control of media rights, etc.?

I don't see playwers on here making that argument I see you. As I clearly pointed out it is a ridiculous one which you have not argued against but simply repeat the same argument, utter guff.

Phil Mickleson's argument has been that the higher profile players should receive greater rewards rewards, without saying how that could be financed without reducing the rewards at the other end of the spectrum. This at lewast a legitimate argument, though one I disagree with.

 

[pokerjoke]

Did anyone see Rory JT or anyone else
complain that the tournament purses on the PGA tour are increasing.
I presume not

GMac is being honest,. He can't cut it on the main Tour anymore, so he may as well go and cash in on the exhibition circuit, and so long as you ignore where the money is coming from, happy days.

Boring reply as usual ,change the record

 

[Swango1980]

I don't see playwers on here making that argument I see you. As I clearly pointed out it is a ridiculous one which you have not argued against but simply repeat the same argument, utter guff.

Phil Mickleson's argument has been that the higher profile players should receive greater rewards rewards, without saying how that could be financed without reducing the rewards at the other end of the spectrum. This at lewast a legitimate argument, though one I disagree with.

So, Phil Micklson believes higher profile players should receive greater rewards. More money perhaps?

I rest my case .

 

[pokerjoke]

Great interview that from Horschel. Very passionate and you can tell he’s upset by what’s going on and being said.

What an absolute mess our game is in.

Even the pros are slating each other.
That’s obviously not good

 

[Ethan]

Did anyone see Rory JT or anyone else
complain that the tournament purses on the PGA tour are increasing.
I presume not

Boring reply as usual ,change the record

No, if you don't like what I post, ignore me.

 

[Mel Smooth]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1544343230526787584

 

[Imurg]

Great interview that from Horschel. Very passionate and you can tell he’s upset by what’s going on and being said.

What an absolute mess our game is in.

Our Professional game.....the rest of golf (the majority)is working just fine....

 

[Backsticks]

What an absolute mess our game is in.

99.99999% of golfers and golf are entirely unaffected by this spat for control of money and marketing at the elite tip of golf as entertainment.

 

[Foxholer]

GMac is being honest,. He can't cut it on the main Tour anymore, so he may as well go and cash in on the exhibition circuit, and so long as you ignore where the money is coming from, happy days.

Boring reply as usual ,change the record

You mean...'Consistent and accurate, but not what I want to hear'

 

[rksquire]

Good strong comments from Billy Horschel and McIlroy today - at this point, much as it is entertaining, with legal battles looming it might be time for the Pros to stop providing speculative commentary.... eg, and I am the biggest McIlroy apologist, but I can recall him being strongly criticized for wanting his cake and eating it on at least 2 occasions with regard to European Tour membership fulfillment (non Ryder Cup year) AND for others (ironically Casey in particular) to play despite not playing the required number of events (Ryder Cup year!). He did, of course, get his way. He was the jewel in the crown then; now he's the PGA's jewel. If the whole thing fires him up that'd be great, but I don't want 'foot in mouth' comments to showcase the times his petulance and times his personal goals came ahead of the professional games needs.

 

[Foxholer]

So, Phil Micklson believes higher profile players should receive greater rewards. More money perhaps?

I rest my case .

They do - through their sponsors! - and maybe some 'attendance bonuses'

 

[BrianM]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1544343230526787584

You know this is a tournament sponsored by blood money as Aramco are owned by the Saudi Arabian government. ??

 

[Backsticks]

They do - through their sponsors! - and maybe some 'attendance bonuses'

And from the PGA tour payout according to their profile and contribution to the tour o general. Sort of a bonus profit share..

 

[Mel Smooth]

You know this is a tournament sponsored by blood money as Aramco are owned by the Saudi Arabian government. ??

Of course.
Olympians, LPGA members, LET players - all escaping the wrath of the principled journalists who so eagerly stick the knife into those gentleman who work for the same paymasters.
Moronic levels of hypocrisy.. ??