Football European super league.

[Deleted member 15344]

I can't understand why people keep saying the "novelty" will wear off - the CL keeps getting stronger , the appeal for the top teams around the world keeps getting stronger , the attendances abroad when teams go on tour keep getting stronger , the money spent by overseas telly companies just gets more and more. Football is growing every single day and people keep saying the bubble will burst but it's not happening - it's getting stronger and there is no sign of it stopping.

Stadiums will fill up and matches abroad would sell out - nothing points to it going any other way but stronger and the top teams want to ensure they maximise the amount of money they gain from it all

It will be massive financial success globally but it will effect fans

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I can't understand why people keep saying the "novelty" will wear off - the CL keeps getting stronger , the appeal for the top teams around the world keeps getting stronger , the attendances abroad when teams go on tour keep getting stronger , the money spent by overseas telly companies just gets more and more. Football is growing every single day and people keep saying the bubble will burst but it's not happening - it's getting stronger and there is no sign of it stopping.

Stadiums will fill up and matches abroad would sell out - nothing points to it going any other way but stronger and the top teams want to ensure they maximise the amount of money they gain from it all

It will be massive financial success globally but it will effect fans

^^This^^ Plus, has anyone considered a backlash by the Clubs not chosen, PL and FA which may give the English players and game a boost, all them Man Utd fans in London may choose other teams to support😃

 

[Deleted member 18588]

I can't understand why people keep saying the "novelty" will wear off - the CL keeps getting stronger , the appeal for the top teams around the world keeps getting stronger , the attendances abroad when teams go on tour keep getting stronger , the money spent by overseas telly companies just gets more and more. Football is growing every single day and people keep saying the bubble will burst but it's not happening - it's getting stronger and there is no sign of it stopping.

Stadiums will fill up and matches abroad would sell out - nothing points to it going any other way but stronger and the top teams want to ensure they maximise the amount of money they gain from it all

It will be massive financial success globally but it will effect fans

Two traditional hotbeds of football in Europe where the game is not getting stronger, Italy and Spain.

As for CL plenty of games, particularly in the group stages, do not sell out.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Two traditional hotbeds of football in Europe where the game is not getting stronger, Italy and Spain.

As for CL plenty of games, particularly in the group stages, do not sell out.

For the top teams is stronger - the likes and Barce and Madrid and Juve etc. And within a Super they would get stronger.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

For the top teams is stronger - the likes and Barce and Madrid and Juve etc. And within a Super they would get stronger.

You are generally keen on facts but you have none on which to base your assumptions of success for this Super League.

I dobt that there is anywhere near sufficient depth of Super clubs to ensure success.

 

[Qwerty]

Apologies if its already been said as I haven't read every post... But morally and ethically the whole thing Stinks.
If it were to go ahead the current value of every premier league club would drop through the floor and it would have a knock on effect on the rest of English and Scottish Football.
Are UEFA and the FA capable/Allowed to effectively pull the plug on the premier league?
Would the owners of the other affected Clubs just have to take it on the Chin?



If it were to go ahead Ive no doubt the whole thing would Take off.
Fans would no doubt dig deeper into the pockets to pay the increased prices for the new 'Product' and those that didn't would easily be replaced.
..And kids will carry on growing up still thinking that Football is a TV Progamme.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

You are generally keen on facts but you have none on which to base your assumptions of success for this Super League.

I dobt that there is anywhere near sufficient depth of Super clubs to ensure success.

The CL is the perfect pointer to the success

It was extended and the same doom and gloom was mentioned and yet the CL just gets stronger - the most recent telly deal just here was for £1billion. A telly deal for games with just the biggest clubs in Europe would be even more than that

 

[HomerJSimpson]

But you cannot create support.

Look at the NFL games at Wembley, they sell out because of their scarcity value and, judging by the shirts worn, are attended by the fans of virtually every team in the league. But what would happen if a London franchise was created? Support would have to be developed over years.

If European Super League games were regularly played overseas the novelty would wear off and domestic support could also wane as the "product" on offer would not have the same appeal as the original.

Totally agree. Can't see how the CL can be said to be growing year on year unless you are talking purely on a monetary basis and that's surely down to UEFA and whoever sets the price of the coverage simply bumping up the cost to broadcast in each country annually. I don't see crowds etc have changed significantly. If anything I still say a closed shop, especially if games are initially played in Europe will see interest wane with the same sides playing over and over and no access to the big table for any outsiders. What a shame that Leicester, if they go on to win the PL suddenly being denied a place in the CL because someone says they aren't big enough or have enough money and why should they and whoever wins national leagues across Europe have to do with a watered down consolation prize

It may well sell out globally but how can a Chinese fan in a club shirt be classed as a fan? What about those in England, Germany, France, Spain etc who have supported their side for years and now find themselves unable to see their own side on a regular basis as they are touring Asia, South America or Australia.

As a cash making exercise for the super league owners and the clubs of course its the next golden goose and sod everyone else but I seriously hope this doesn't come off. It gets talked about every year or so and yet we're no further forward so there must be some issues preventing this or I have no doubt Barca, Real, Bayern and everyone else would have been off like a shot ages ago and rolling in the money available. I think common sense will prevail to a degree and while Uefa will continue to hike broadcasting right money year on year as a way of keeping money coming into the clubs, and while there are broadcasters still happy to pay this to show the matches live the status quo will remain

 

[Deleted member 18588]

The CL is the perfect pointer to the success

It was extended and the same doom and gloom was mentioned and yet the CL just gets stronger - the most recent telly deal just here was for £1billion. A telly deal for games with just the biggest clubs in Europe would be even more than that

No guarantee as fewer teams will reduce the appeal in some areas such as Europe.

After all where is the attraction to a Dutch supporter in a game between Man City and Juventus or to an English supporter if Atletico play PSG.

Supporters from traditional football countries are primarily interested in their own clubs and will not be looking to spend more money to watch TV coverage of even more matches to which they have no connection.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Totally agree. Can't see how the CL can be said to be growing year on year unless you are talking purely on a monetary basis and that's surely down to UEFA and whoever sets the price of the coverage simply bumping up the cost to broadcast in each country annually. I don't see crowds etc have changed significantly. If anything I still say a closed shop, especially if games are initially played in Europe will see interest wane with the same sides playing over and over and no access to the big table for any outsiders. What a shame that Leicester, if they go on to win the PL suddenly being denied a place in the CL because someone says they aren't big enough or have enough money and why should they and whoever wins national leagues across Europe have to do with a watered down consolation prize

It may well sell out globally but how can a Chinese fan in a club shirt be classed as a fan? What about those in England, Germany, France, Spain etc who have supported their side for years and now find themselves unable to see their own side on a regular basis as they are touring Asia, South America or Australia.

As a cash making exercise for the super league owners and the clubs of course its the next golden goose and sod everyone else but I seriously hope this doesn't come off. It gets talked about every year or so and yet we're no further forward so there must be some issues preventing this or I have no doubt Barca, Real, Bayern and everyone else would have been off like a shot ages ago and rolling in the money available. I think common sense will prevail to a degree and while Uefa will continue to hike broadcasting right money year on year as a way of keeping money coming into the clubs, and while there are broadcasters still happy to pay this to show the matches live the status quo will remain

Since when has common sense prevailed when it comes to Football, if you read the posts in the we're off thread the normal local fan is already being priced out and corporate is getting bigger, the sooner we accept money is what it's about the better.
Totally accept it moralley and ethically stinks but the game has changed and the Euro League could maybe should happen.
Why isn't a Chinese person in a shirt not a fan? It's a global game with global appeal. English clubs are happy to sign foreign players, but we don't want those players attracting their fellow countrymen do we? Bloody Jonny foreigner liking our clubs! How dare they.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

No guarantee as fewer teams will reduce the appeal in some areas such as Europe.

After all where is the attraction to a Dutch supporter in a game between Man City and Juventus or to an English supporter if Atletico play PSG.

Supporters from traditional football countries are primarily interested in their own clubs and will not be looking to spend more money to watch TV coverage of even more matches to which they have no connection.

I get what your saying and my reply maybe annoying, but if they've got sponsorship and revenue, who cares if the dutchman doesn't want to watch the Spanish and English team play.
If it goes global, the locals will pay, just like they do in this country for NFL.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

No guarantee as fewer teams will reduce the appeal in some areas such as Europe.

After all where is the attraction to a Dutch supporter in a game between Man City and Juventus or to an English supporter if Atletico play PSG.

Supporters from traditional football countries are primarily interested in their own clubs and will not be looking to spend more money to watch TV coverage of even more matches to which they have no connection.

But the appeal is worldwide hence why abroad people love watching the PSG vs Atletico because worldwide people love watching the best players play - people love watching Ibra vs Greziman or vs Pogba

The telly companies will spend the big money to secure the broadcast rights just like.

Football is worldwide and bigger than just supporters from the local area of a club

180 million watched the last CL final in 2015 with other finals been watched by more than that. Those are the figures that will matter

 

[Deleted member 18588]

But the appeal is worldwide hence why abroad people love watching the PSG vs Atletico because worldwide people love watching the best players play - people love watching Ibra vs Greziman or vs Pogba

The telly companies will spend the big money to secure the broadcast rights just like.

Football is worldwide and bigger than just supporters from the local area of a club

180 million watched the last CL final in 2015 with other finals been watched by more than that. Those are the figures that will matter

If those were the figures that matter then cricket would be getting much more money as, for example, over 280 million watched the Pakistan v India game in the ICC World Cup.

The demographic of the viewers is the decisive factor as that is what will determine advertising revenues. Therefore, if it can be sold in developed markets such as USA then big money can be generated. The American market for "Soccer",or any other non-traditional (to the US) sport remains very fragile.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

If those were the figures that matter then cricket would be getting much more money as, for example, over 280 million watched the Pakistan v India game in the ICC World Cup.

The demographic of the viewers is the decisive factor as that is what will determine advertising revenues. Therefore, if it can be sold in developed markets such as USA then big money can be generated. The American market for "Soccer",or any other non-traditional (to the US) sport remains very fragile.

He amount of money in the IPL , Big Bash and other T20 comps is on the rise - Big Bash especially.

Football is already sold worldwide - that's why the Prem rights go for so much money because Sky etc can make a fortune selling them on to all areas.

America is not the golden goose for football - Far East , Middle East , Africa all massively into European Football

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Far East , Middle East , Africa all massively into European Football

None of which generate the big bucks for advertising revenue.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

None of which generate the big bucks for advertising revenue.

Really ? sorry but a lot of the clubs will have advertising from companies based in those areas.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Really ? sorry but a lot of the clubs will have advertising from companies based in those areas.

But that is not the same as generating advertising revenue for the TV companies who will be expected to fund this.

 

[garyinderry]

I would hope massive fan protests could stop this from happening if it was ever close to happening.

I personally don't think it will happen.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

But that is not the same as generating advertising revenue for the TV companies who will be expected to fund this.

Companies would throw money at the league to get advertising - Gazprom throw millions at the CL to allow them to be main advertiser.

The European League would be broadcast to billions of households and advertisers know that and the revenue will be massive - just as it already is for both the Prem and CL

 

[Deleted member 18588]

I would hope massive fan protests could stop this from happening if it was ever close to happening.

I personally don't think it will happen.

It may well happen, greed is such a motivator and it provides a short cut back to the top-table for some clubs for whom that was becoming a distant memory.

And the largely foreign owners of these clubs will have no qualms about uplifting their "franchise" and taking it elsewhere when the traditional support dwindles in both numbers and financial significance.