Football European super league.

Stuart_C said:
Spot on but there's 1 thing for certain, city nor Chelsea should anywhere the top table IMO.
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Last 20 years (1996 - 2015, completed seasons):

Arsenal; 0 Champions League, 0 Europa League, 3 Premier Leagues, 6 FA Cups, 0 League Cups, total 9

Chelsea; 1 Champions League, 1 Europa League, 4 Premier Leagues, 6 FA Cups, 4 League Cups, total 16

Liverpool; 1 Champions League, 1 Europa League, 0 Premier League, 2 FA Cups, 3 League Cups, total 7

Manchester City; 0 Champions League, 0 Europa League, 2 Premier Leagues, 1 FA Cup, 1 League Cup, total 4

Manchester United: 2 Champions League, 0 Europa League, 11 Premier Leagues, 3 FA Cups, 3 League Cups, total 19

On recent history you might make a case for excluding one of the two clubs you cite, but you make a much better case for excluding your own club.
 
HomerJSimpson said:
I assume if it ever went ahead, there would have to be some form of movement amongst clubs not in the initial league. Pretty sure the lawyers would insist on it somewhere along the line. Still don't think it'll happen
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The fact that it is even being thought about is sufficient for me to agree with FD, whether it actually happens or not. I hope it doesn't, but I think what will stop it is the concern about where those teams will go if it does implode; they'll hardly be welcomed back to their former leagues with open arms.
 
If it does happen can see it working and bring a success for the teams involved

It would be a weekly CL against the biggest clubs in Europe - all the players would want to play in it and the telly companies would throw money at it
 
Blue in Munich said:
The fact that it is even being thought about is sufficient for me to agree with FD, whether it actually happens or not. I hope it doesn't, but I think what will stop it is the concern about where those teams will go if it does implode; they'll hardly be welcomed back to their former leagues with open arms.
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Its my concern and it will inevitably implode when the cash dries up. Can't see any league, in all likelihood already struggling with reduced TV and crowd revenues as a result of the super league letting them back in easily. I really can't see how it'll work especially as a closed shop
 
Liverpoolphil said:
If it does happen can see it working and bring a success for the teams involved

It would be a weekly CL against the biggest clubs in Europe - all the players would want to play in it and the telly companies would throw money at it
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You's are moaning at ticket prices now, you'll be fuming having to buy flights every other week as well.
 
Blue in Munich said:
Last 20 years (1996 - 2015, completed seasons):

Arsenal; 0 Champions League, 0 Europa League, 3 Premier Leagues, 6 FA Cups, 0 League Cups, total 9

Chelsea; 1 Champions League, 1 Europa League, 4 Premier Leagues, 6 FA Cups, 4 League Cups, total 16

Liverpool; 1 Champions League, 1 Europa League, 0 Premier League, 2 FA Cups, 3 League Cups, total 7

Manchester City; 0 Champions League, 0 Europa League, 2 Premier Leagues, 1 FA Cup, 1 League Cup, total 4

Manchester United: 2 Champions League, 0 Europa League, 11 Premier Leagues, 3 FA Cups, 3 League Cups, total 19

On recent history you might make a case for excluding one of the two clubs you cite, but you make a much better case for excluding your own club.
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I never included them, I was merely offering my opinion. If you use the last 25 yrs we'd have an extra 2 trophies to our tally:smirk:
 
Stuart_C said:
I never included them, I was merely offering my opinion. If you use the last 25 yrs we'd have an extra 2 trophies to our tally:smirk:
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I think you should go back to the complete trophy haul and that shows you's as Englands most succesful side, oh no wait, that's Man Utd isn't it.
 
pauldj42 said:
I think you should go back to the complete trophy haul and that shows you's as Englands most succesful side, oh no wait, that's Man Utd isn't it.
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It depends what trophies were counting, do pre season tourney's count?
 
Don't know if it's already been said but I'd love to see this happen. Not for entertainment reasons but just because it would be great for them to go and leave the other 87 league teams to get on with things.

Wont be long before the novelty wears off and fans are being priced out and the crowds will be full of plastic fans. As for travelling away support that'll be a thing of the past and there'd be nothing to stop home games being played in America or Asia. Be absolutley boring with nothing to play for. No promotion or relegation and who's going to challenge Barca or Bayern for the title??

I don't see it happening myself. Money is ruining the game as far as I'm concerned and I'm starting to lose touch with it. I could have had a season ticket for next season but due to my feelings towards the game and our chairman I've decided to invest the money into a golf membership instead. I'll probably watch more non league football next season. Cheaper admission and cheaper pie and a pint.
 
pauldj42 said:
You's are moaning at ticket prices now, you'll be fuming having to buy flights every other week as well.
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The amount of telly money and sponsership money thrown at the clubs would be massive

And if it did happen the novelty wouldn't wear off - it would just get bigger and bigger and would swallow up most of the telly money
 
Grogger said:
Don't know if it's already been said but I'd love to see this happen. Not for entertainment reasons but just because it would be great for them to go and leave the other 87 league teams to get on with things.

Wont be long before the novelty wears off and fans are being priced out and the crowds will be full of plastic fans. As for travelling away support that'll be a thing of the past and there'd be nothing to stop home games being played in America or Asia. Be absolutley boring with nothing to play for. No promotion or relegation and who's going to challenge Barca or Bayern for the title??

I don't see it happening myself. Money is ruining the game as far as I'm concerned and I'm starting to lose touch with it. I could have had a season ticket for next season but due to my feelings towards the game and our chairman I've decided to invest the money into a golf membership instead. I'll probably watch more non league football next season. Cheaper admission and cheaper pie and a pint.
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Have to agree. Away fans aren't going to fork out for flights every other week and won't go but won't be happy to sit at home to watch their team either. Costs and interest will wane after a season or three and it'll get farmed off as a touring circus to Asia and the US. TV money would get chucked at it as the only way to pay inflated wages but it would lose appeal eventually. What happens then to these clubs with no ball to play with. Can't see the leagues welcoming them back with open arms.

No way will it happen within the next five years and I still doubt that without UEFA/FIFA sanctioning it the whole thing will be a football version of Kerry Packers cricket debacle and we all know how that played out and what it did to the careers of some good players
 
Liverpoolphil said:
The amount of telly money and sponsership money thrown at the clubs would be massive

And if it did happen the novelty wouldn't wear off - it would just get bigger and bigger and would swallow up most of the telly money
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How do you stay competitive without promotion and relegation or competeing to qualify for a bigger comp and why if you left shoukd you be allowed back in, you'd still have national leagues and Euro Cups, just without the so called Big Clubs.
Celtic would be massive in a European League, just not for footballing reasons.
 
Its something thats been talked about for as long as I can remember. Doubt it will happen, not at the expense of national leagues anyway.
 
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