Football European super league.

I seem to recall Man C & U and Chelsea being in the lower leagues. Man C only a few years ago.
Just needs a mega bucks backer for any club to reach the same standard as the 'big five'.
BTW, ATM Liverpool and Chelsea are well outwith the big five in the EPL.

on what basis? as much as i dont like them theyre recent record better than anyones and are still defending champions, yes they had a couple of bad months due to some personality clashes
 
on what basis? as much as i dont like them theyre recent record better than anyones and are still defending champions, yes they had a couple of bad months due to some personality clashes

He is purely looking at the current league table
 
It needs more than a "mega bucks backer" - there are plenty of those backers around Europe but those clubs haven't become a big club. Both Chelsea and City had players and stadium and area and foundation to be a big club - the money helped.

And it's not just about their current position in the league or what league there were in at any stage in the past
The only reason LPool make the top 5 is history, you haven't competed with the other 4 for a few years now apart from 1.
It wouldn't happen overnight and in 3-5 years you could changes to what is perceived as a top 5 club.
 
The only reason LPool make the top 5 is history, you haven't competed with the other 4 for a few years now apart from 1.
It wouldn't happen overnight and in 3-5 years you could changes to what is perceived as a top 5 club.

And we attract worldwide appeal - we would bring in viewers around the world.

IMO you couldn't turn any club into a City or Chelsea
 
And we attract worldwide appeal - we would bring in viewers around the world.

IMO you couldn't turn any club into a City or Chelsea
Actually agree you are one of the Big 4 or 5, based on your history, that's were your worldwide appeal comes from, not current success, anyone can become a City or Chelsea if they find the sugar daddy who wants to spend.
 
Actually agree you are one of the Big 4 or 5, based on your history, that's were your worldwide appeal comes from, not current success, anyone can become a City or Chelsea if they find the sugar daddy who wants to spend.

I don't think they can - need more than just money.
 
I don't think they can - need more than just money.

Like what. How much have Liverpool spent since they nearly won the PL and how close has that brought CL football. You have to spend but you have to buy the right players and build a squad that gels and has strength in depth. That's what the top sides across Europe all have and which to a large degree the likes of City, United and Arsenal have struggled with. Lose a number of first team players and the cupboard is pretty bare pretty quickly
 
How else did City do it? At least Chelsea had a team that was near the top, who have City brought through the club?

City also had the stadium , the facilities , the area to attract players , the fanbase

Yes the money is massive to them but you couldn't for example drop 500 mil at Charlton and they then become a big club or indeed Wolves or Carlise etc.

The foundations to be a big club need to be there as they were for both City and Chelsea
 
City also had the stadium , the facilities , the area to attract players , the fanbase

Yes the money is massive to them but you couldn't for example drop 500 mil at Charlton and they then become a big club or indeed Wolves or Carlise etc.

The foundations to be a big club need to be there as they were for both City and Chelsea

You could for Spurs or West Ham or Newcastle or Leicester, all currently in better positions than City were when they were bought.
 
You could for Spurs or West Ham or Newcastle or Leicester, all currently in better positions than City were when they were bought.

Spurs , West Ham and Newcastle yes - Leicester not so sure

And it's not about the positions they are in the league.
 
Spurs , West Ham and Newcastle yes - Leicester not so sure

And it's not about the positions they are in the league.

Agreed it's not about position, reasonable squad, reasonable stadiums, good fan base, City were not in that good of condition.
 
Agreed it's not about position, reasonable squad, reasonable stadiums, good fan base, City were not in that good of condition.

But had a lovely big new stadium with lots of potential to grow with not much debt to clear and nice big rival to challenge. It was set up ready to go - same as if the Iranian suddenly put loads in - the foundations are there
 
More than a big staduim needed. Needs to be managed properly. Look at the demise of Leeds over the last twenty years following their dream of CL football. Plenty of clubs have spent big and not got near a title or Europe and have amassed big debts
 
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