Football European super league.

[Qwerty]

Crystal Palace Punks v Barcelona Buccaneers,It does have a certain ring to it! :lol:

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[Deleted member 15344]

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That would be the day football dies - frightening thought

 

[SaintHacker]

A European League is almost inevitable, money talks.
I hope it involves promotion and relegation so we may then see some of the 'big five' end up with the likes of Wolves, Sheffeld Wednesday,
Portsmouth, Ipswich, Fulham and Charlton.
Money talks.

Portsmouth!:rofl::rofl::thup:

 

[Liverbirdie]

No I'm not in favour of it happening

Just being realistic to it and can see it happening and it would be within FIFA's agreements because I think it would be a massive money spinner for football and FIFA will benefit from that.

FIFA know that if something did happen with all the mass finance that would it attract would get all the top players going there and they know they need those top players to make the WC a marketing dream - it's all purely financial to them.

The Kerry Packer thjng was an attempt at professional paid cricket for all - now cricket open their arms to it all because of the financial benefits

Everything is controlled by greed and the financial rewards for a European League will make a lot open to it

Good - not sure FIFA would necessarily benefit overall though, as if there was no relegation etc they could break away. Look at boxing and the darts where you have different bodies.

Also the original leagues may suffer so could lose out overall.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Good - not sure FIFA would necessarily benefit overall though, as if there was no relegation etc they could break away. Look at boxing and the darts where you have different bodies.

Also the original leagues may suffer so could lose out overall.

The overall leagues would suffer - the Prem etc would lose a good deal amount of revenue from telly deals and sponsership , it would awful for all the other clubs , the best players would look to be a part of it

 

[Liverbirdie]

A European Super League would IMO increase the exposure of the game all over the world - with that increased exposure the governing bodies will be able to jump on the marketing and ensure that any tournaments they host would be fully packed out and massively market it and gain further sponsership.

All the best players playing with and against each other at club and then for their country - it's a marketing dream.

IF it happened then I believe the governing bodies would sanction it because they themselves would be able to use the increased exposure of the game around the world and gain their own extra income

Yes a European League globally would enhance the finances of the clubs but it's not exactly rocket science for the governing bodies to jump on it to ensure they get slices of pies.

They wouldn't ban players because they need those players to be playing in their tournaments

The thirst from people all over the world to watch the best players is something that can be utilised to the max to ensure maximum income for all. Basic marketing.

But what if the "original" country leagues wither as a result, that may trickle down to grass roots level and get even less people playing the game, and turn them into fans of other sports.

Initially, there would be a massive interest, but 10 years later, it would just be like watching the Harlem globetrotters.

I dont bother to watch much CL these days.

 

[Liverbirdie]

The overall leagues would suffer - the Prem etc would lose a good deal amount of revenue from telly deals and sponsership , it would awful for all the other clubs , the best players would look to be a part of it

Ergo, UEFA might get loads of "extra" money from the ESL, but in the long run maybe less from the other leagues, if the other leagues arent as attractive and they earn less overall.

Another wall street crash/credit crunch and the ESL could die overnight.

 

[Qwerty]

Initially, there would be a massive interest, but 10 years later, it would just be like watching the Harlem globetrotters.
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The thing that bothers me is that once it's done Theres no going back.
100+years down the pan, All the history diluted IMO.

It all might sound a bit OTT but over time once it's established what has gone before will quite quickly be forgotten.

 

[Liverbirdie]

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The thing that bothers me is that once it's done Theres no going back.
100+years down the pan, All the history diluted IMO.

It all might sound a bit OTT but over time once it's established what has gone before will slowly be forgotten.

Correct mate.

I used to love the FA cup, going to places like Carlisle, Swansea, Hull, Barnsley, Oldham, Walsall (when some of them clubs were in the 2nd/3rd division) and used to pray for a ground I hadn't been to before. Would have loved a Bury, Rochdale, Brentford, Leyton Orient.

Over the years regularly going to Derby, Sheff Wed, Coventry, Forest when they were regularly in the top division.

You can go all over this country, on holiday, on business and can still have something to chat to to people from other cities that you may have in common, or even remember a match between his/her and your own side.

If my side went into it, we would have nothing in common with these supporters, and would have more in common with "fashionistas" in their blag Barcelona tops.

Remember, my dad and your dad have seen United and Liverpool in the 2nd division!!! No success/level should be guaranteed.


Next stop - world league - Estudiantes away? You dont want to go there on a cold Tuesday night.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

So basically the crux of the voice(s) in favour is that it will generate shed loads of money for those clubs involved and that there will be worldwide media/TV interest in showing this across and that this super league will be the flagship to grow the game

Sorry but as a model I see it as flawed and can't see how someone in Chile would be vaguely interested in PSG v AC Milan and why a South American TV company would pay top dollar to show it. With no way of effectively changing the line up with promotion and relegation, it remains a closed shop bar those invited to the top table who then rake off the huge money thrown at the league while domestic leagues become watered down.

I can't see any way in which it can work as a long term project and while in the first 1-10 seasons there may be enough interest to keep the money flowing and the viewing figures and advertising revenue sufficiently high, even if they take it globally, I fail to see how it will grow the game worldwide. It's a case of the haves having more and sod everyone else and I can't see how Uefa/Fifa will allow it to happen or see it being in the best interest of a global model.

Anyway off to the Madstad to watch proper footie now

 

[Deleted member 15344]

But what if the "original" country leagues wither as a result, that may trickle down to grass roots level and get even less people playing the game, and turn them into fans of other sports.

Initially, there would be a massive interest, but 10 years later, it would just be like watching the Harlem globetrotters.

I dont bother to watch much CL these days.

You are spot on it would have a massive effect on the leagues around Europe if the big clubs left the leagues - but I expect it wouldn't bother the big clubs because of the selfish nature of football and the thirst for the money.

The owners of these clubs want to have their team in highlights all over the world - it's seems like a boys toys to show off to their billionaire mates and as you and Qwerty it would be history just wiped away and having the likes of Exeter playing the big teams never happening- it's a frightening prospect but something that would wet the appetite of the rich

 

[Tongo]

Well Charlie Stillitano has certainly got famous on the back of this controversy. One wonders whether that was one of his aims.

It'll happen eventually. Just a case of when. Shame on pesky Leicester for getting in the way of the big 5. How dare they.