wjemather
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What they do in Australia is irrelevant.
Affiliated organisations within GB&I have to follow the rules and guidance; independent groups of golfers can do whatever they like - including not using WHS at all.
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Affiliated organisations within GB&I have to follow the rules and guidance; independent groups of golfers can do whatever they like - including not using WHS at all.
Voyager EMH
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It is not necessarily high handicappers that are advantaged by ignoring 95%.
There might be two players that have handicaps of 2 and 5 when 95% is applied.
But ignoring 95% could result in their handicaps being 2 and 6.
The lower handicapper can be disadvantaged by one shot against other low handicap players.
All this can be avoided by having only one system - Use Playing Handicap for Individual Strokeplay when playing Individual Strokeplay.
There might be two players that have handicaps of 2 and 5 when 95% is applied.
But ignoring 95% could result in their handicaps being 2 and 6.
The lower handicapper can be disadvantaged by one shot against other low handicap players.
All this can be avoided by having only one system - Use Playing Handicap for Individual Strokeplay when playing Individual Strokeplay.
Voyager EMH
Slipper Wearing Plucker of Pheasants
This is not true.
No, they can not do whatever they like.
If money is involved, unfair practices can be dealt with by the law.
They can, "do whatever they like" only within what can be considered reasonable and fair under the law.
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AussieKB
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So stop using the term WHS......it's OZ HS, English HS, USA HS etc.
wjemather
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No, it's definitely a world system - however, there are local differences in implementation.
AussieKB
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Is that an oxymoron ?
clubchamp98
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yes it’s not the World system we thought it would be.
No wonder most golfers have just switched off.
doublebogey7
Head Pro
Who's we, the R&A/USGA stated from the outset stated there would be scope within WHS for differences in culture across the golfing world.
clubchamp98
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We club golfers.
Calling it a World system is a bit of a joke.
When each country can pick and choose what bits they like and omit what they don’t.
wjemather
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Apparently some people simply do not understand what a "system" is.
clubchamp98
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Just put golf handicap system then and leave the world out of it.
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So why does every email I get from my governing body on the subject, call it WHS?
Have you told them they are wrong?
Swango1980
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They could just call the handicap system something completely different in every country.
But then the moaners would just moan that there are so many similarities between each system, it is really a World system and they are kidding us it isn't
But then the moaners would just moan that there are so many similarities between each system, it is really a World system and they are kidding us it isn't
rulefan
Tour Winner
The "system" is specified in the manual 'Rules of Handicapping.
The first (2020) manual makes specific provision for different National Authorities to have their own modifications.
"The administration and oversight of handicapping in each country will continue to be the responsibility of national associations or other authorised bodies......
The Rules of Handicapping also give those authorised organisations certain discretion to adapt the system to fit their own golfing cultures."
The first (2020) manual makes specific provision for different National Authorities to have their own modifications.
"The administration and oversight of handicapping in each country will continue to be the responsibility of national associations or other authorised bodies......
The Rules of Handicapping also give those authorised organisations certain discretion to adapt the system to fit their own golfing cultures."
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Backache
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Such a pity that the authorities then don't allow the clubs to put in a few sensible rules to enable fairer competitions. They don't want the plebs to have any responsibility.
D-S
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All of this is fine and correct, if they hadn’t said one of the major benefits of WHS was the portability of handicaps worldwide, which I would assume to mean that competition between players of different countries would be fair and equitable (something that I really don’t think was ever needed apart from a tiny percentage of players in the world).
D
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But…it is.
If you go and play in Australia, you follow Golf Australia rules.
If you play in the US, you play by their rules.
The calculation of the handicap indices of players is the same globally, which was the main driver.
D-S
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But with the regional/cultural differences in applications of the rules are the resulting handicaps truly comparable? - if not whoever’s rules you play off is irrelevant if the base starting point is different.
D
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Yes. The calculation of the handicap index is the same globally.
Competition results or handicap to play off in a competition mean nothing, it’s the calculation to create the index which is the same
D-S
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But the base data from which the calculation is done is different. Therefore the resultant index is different.
