YouTubers.

[Orikoru]

A video spontaneously appeared on my Youtube list with Westwwood, Poulter and Bullard - Ok this should be worth a look . Wrong - within microseconds I realised that being geezered to death by Bullard wasn't going to work. Made much worse by the parasitic loud mouthed caddy whose emergence from obscurity should be reversed without delay.

Each to their own! I enjoy Bullard's enthusiasm for the game and he's a cracking golfer also, considering it was only a secondary pursuit for him. That was a good video, Westy and Poults ended up being quite impressed by his game I think.

 

[LincolnShep]

... Made much worse by the parasitic loud mouthed caddy whose emergence from obscurity should be reversed without delay.

I think I saw Parasitic Loud-mouthed Caddy at the Hackney Empire in 1978. I got covered in warm beer, at least I hope it was beer.

 

[oleinone]

Nah different caddy, the paralytic one? Maybe his dad.

 

[Depreston]

See mark crossfield going down the gears route shame every videos click bait title which makes them horrendous to search for

 

[Pin-seeker]

I dunno, Shiels could cover that market pretty well atm

Shiels is very good on a launch monitor,doesn’t miss greens.
Big over draw when on the course

 

[Slab]

Loosely linked to recent posts about practice swings Y/N, and lining up ball on green Y/N, a thought occurred to me while watching various YT ‘tuition’ vids this morning

Many of the videos are no doubt the correct way to do xyz to achieve abc… however most viewers are not going to be able to do it to the required level/accuracy & by doing xyz poorly or ‘as best you can’ it may do more harm than good

Take using alignment line on ball to line up the putt on the green, PGA Pro says this week (paraphrased) Yes most Tour Pro’s do it but club golfers shouldn’t bother because they can’t read a green well enough to do what the pros do, and by doing what the pros do (xyz) without the green reading skill (abc) your average club golfer is just lining up to the wrong start line and instead they should not align ball & trust their brain to find the proper start line after taking stance… I think it’s a very valid opinion & makes complete sense to me

Now try and find the YT Pro tuition vid that says ‘hey guys, stop messing about with the alignment line on putts and do this instead’

Or YT Pro vid says ‘do this to correct x & drive it straighter/further’ etc etc (often with the slo-mo of Rory’s driver swing) or at very least a slo-mo of a swing that drives it 300 & overwhelming majority of viewers will never be able to do it and its just not a swing that’s transferable to hitting it straight to 225... but there's no vids about that

 

[Albo]

YT teaching vids probably do more harm than good overall, it’s fine to say if you want to stop doing X you need to change A or B or C or a combination of all, but the reality is one person’s swing is not the same as another, and the chances of a standard fix working for anyone’s swing is not that likely. I went down the YT teaching route but glad I’m now out of it

 

[Backsticks]

Loosely linked to recent posts about practice swings Y/N, and lining up ball on green Y/N, a thought occurred to me while watching various YT ‘tuition’ vids this morning

Many of the videos are no doubt the correct way to do xyz to achieve abc… however most viewers are not going to be able to do it to the required level/accuracy & by doing xyz poorly or ‘as best you can’ it may do more harm than good

Take using alignment line on ball to line up the putt on the green, PGA Pro says this week (paraphrased) Yes most Tour Pro’s do it but club golfers shouldn’t bother because they can’t read a green well enough to do what the pros do, and by doing what the pros do (xyz) without the green reading skill (abc) your average club golfer is just lining up to the wrong start line and instead they should not align ball & trust their brain to find the proper start line after taking stance… I think it’s a very valid opinion & makes complete sense to me

Now try and find the YT Pro tuition vid that says ‘hey guys, stop messing about with the alignment line on putts and do this instead’

Or YT Pro vid says ‘do this to correct x & drive it straighter/further’ etc etc (often with the slo-mo of Rory’s driver swing) or at very least a slo-mo of a swing that drives it 300 & overwhelming majority of viewers will never be able to do it and its just not a swing that’s transferable to hitting it straight to 225... but there's no vids about that

And we have discussed before : it isnt even possible to line up a 1.68" line with any useful precision for a 20' putt. Even the pros, no matter how well they read the line of the putt, still cannot align such a short line with useful precision.

 

[Orikoru]

Take using alignment line on ball to line up the putt on the green, PGA Pro says this week (paraphrased) Yes most Tour Pro’s do it but club golfers shouldn’t bother because they can’t read a green well enough to do what the pros do, and by doing what the pros do (xyz) without the green reading skill (abc) your average club golfer is just lining up to the wrong start line and instead they should not align ball & trust their brain to find the proper start line after taking stance… I think it’s a very valid opinion & makes complete sense to me

I agree with that. Have never bothered using a line on the ball because I don't think it helps. I would try and line it up, then get over the ball to hit and think "that line looks wrong now". Any finickity little process like that tends to distract me - just like when I experimented with claw grip, I was focussed on that but got the line and the pace wrong every time. I putt better when I forget every minor detail, just look at the hole, get a line and hit the ball.

 

[chico]

And we have discussed before : it isnt even possible to line up a 1.68" line with any useful precision for a 20' putt. Even the pros, no matter how well they read the line of the putt, still cannot align such a short line with useful precision.

I pick my line but then bring it back to 1 or 2 foot Infront of the ball, even on a 20 or 30 foot putt.
I found I was too narrow trying to read my line( one or two foot along the length of the putt.) Since I've widened out my view 5 or 10 feet either side I'm reading the break much better.

 

[LizAig]

Loosely linked to recent posts about practice swings Y/N, and lining up ball on green Y/N, a thought occurred to me while watching various YT ‘tuition’ vids this morning

Many of the videos are no doubt the correct way to do xyz to achieve abc… however most viewers are not going to be able to do it to the required level/accuracy & by doing xyz poorly or ‘as best you can’ it may do more harm than good

Take using alignment line on ball to line up the putt on the green, PGA Pro says this week (paraphrased) Yes most Tour Pro’s do it but club golfers shouldn’t bother because they can’t read a green well enough to do what the pros do, and by doing what the pros do (xyz) without the green reading skill (abc) your average club golfer is just lining up to the wrong start line and instead they should not align ball & trust their brain to find the proper start line after taking stance… I think it’s a very valid opinion & makes complete sense to me

Now try and find the YT Pro tuition vid that says ‘hey guys, stop messing about with the alignment line on putts and do this instead’

Or YT Pro vid says ‘do this to correct x & drive it straighter/further’ etc etc (often with the slo-mo of Rory’s driver swing) or at very least a slo-mo of a swing that drives it 300 & overwhelming majority of viewers will never be able to do it and its just not a swing that’s transferable to hitting it straight to 225... but there's no vids about that

My old coach Marcus Bell (who is GRF Golf on YouTube) told me to stop lining up about 5 years ago - he said you need to be more instinctive and just see your line. He’s a fan of not over thinking. Definitely worked for me

 

[RichA]

My old coach Marcus Bell (who is GRF Golf on YouTube) told me to stop lining up about 5 years ago - he said you need to be more instinctive and just see your line. He’s a fan of not over thinking. Definitely worked for me

I generally go with instinct. When it's going well, I feel like I can see a grid or contour map, like a computer game. Use a bladed putter, quick look, step up and give it a knock.
When it's going badly though, I can stand and stare at the putting green and just see nothing. When it's like that I'll be taking the Odyssey 2-ball putter and balls with alignment lines, aiming them roughly where I think it's about right and hoping for the best.

 

[Imurg]

My old coach Marcus Bell (who is GRF Golf on YouTube) told me to stop lining up about 5 years ago - he said you need to be more instinctive and just see your line. He’s a fan of not over thinking. Definitely worked for me

I like him already.....

 

[Orikoru]

My old coach Marcus Bell (who is GRF Golf on YouTube) told me to stop lining up about 5 years ago - he said you need to be more instinctive and just see your line. He’s a fan of not over thinking. Definitely worked for me

That's largely what Bob Rotella says in his putting book as well. Just see the line - your first instinct is normally the best read - relax and hit the ball without any technical thoughts.

 

[Slab]

I generally go with instinct. When it's going well, I feel like I can see a grid or contour map, like a computer game. Use a bladed putter, quick look, step up and give it a knock.
When it's going badly though, I can stand and stare at the putting green and just see nothing. When it's like that I'll be taking the Odyssey 2-ball putter and balls with alignment lines, aiming them roughly where I think it's about right and hoping for the best.

What I tend to 'see' is much more like an imaginary line (a bit like at the end of Miracle on the 17th Green or Bagger Vance) when i take my stance

Its probably more accurate to say I try to superimpose an imaginary curved/straight line onto the green, seems to work fairly well... providing I've haven't missed something before getting over the ball

 

[timd77]

I can’t see breaks, I don’t know why, I’ve tried. Well, I can obviously tell if there’s a slope but I can’t judge how much break to allow. So I use plumb bob method, works perfectly for me, shows me where to aim/start, I pick a mark to go over a few inches ahead of the ball and I just have to get the pace right. Has its limitations I know but it does for me and takes no longer than crouching down to have a look.

Getting the pace right and actually hitting the putt is the tricky bit, but it’s rare that I’ll get the line wrong.

 

[Barking_Mad]

I have a pace problem with anything over 15ft. Usually short, occasionally 10 foot past

 

[Backsticks]

Alright, some of the vids from Stealth Widebody on his Stacked Golf channel with his sidekick WorldsGreatestPutter can be so sick. Thrifting for golf clubs, they go find old school clubs right there, and some of the Scotties and Bettinardis are just insane.

 

[Crow]

Finding Scotties and Bettinardis bring views, if they want to keep growing their channel they have to keep "finding" them.

Haven't watched their channel in a while but in the early episodes they just found the usual junk stuff and weird clubs plus occasional MacGregor, Hogan and Wilson classics of which their are many in America.

 

[garyinderry]

Alright, some of the vids from Stealth Widebody on his Stacked Golf channel with his sidekick WorldsGreatestPutter can be so sick. Thrifting for golf clubs, they go find old school clubs right there, and some of the Scotties and Bettinardis are just insane.

I'd be a dangerous man around those yard sales in golfing communities.