stevek1969
Money List Winner
Del i pay mine direct debit so not sure of the situation thats what i wanted to clarify,not meet him as even laid back me would lose the plot with him he's that arrogant.
What would make you leave your club Part 2
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Del i pay mine direct debit so not sure of the situation thats what i wanted to clarify,not meet him as even laid back me would lose the plot with him he's that arrogant.
stevek1969
Money List Winner
I've no problem with rules and i would say i would still have the same reaction its the tone of the letter that hacks me off,from a little man who sits in his ivory tower and doesn't give you the time of day.
In th end if i leave it will be there loss , between fees, using the club house and pro shop i reckon i spend about £2000 a year there, a not to shabby sum of money.
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
Steve, if it's anything like clubs I've been at your direct debit is payment up front for next year as most clubs do not allow membership arrears, you may get something returned from this years fees and most certainly you'll get back what you have paid up front for next year (assuming this is how the scheme works)
Ever considered Drumoig
Ever considered Drumoig
Is the letter normal club policy for not turning up for a competition Steve?
I must admit I've never heard of getting lettered for not turning up. Banned for a competition yes, lettered no.
If it is club policy you've been a member long enough to know it, and if it applies to you now, accept it.
If it's not policy and you feel you've been singled out then fight it every step of the way.
I'm sorry that you're feeling like this mate as you've always spoken with pride of Scotscraig.
Are the course condition issues possibly just a blip?
How do the majority of your fellow members feel? If there's lots of you feel the same way then get together and try and change things.
I must admit I've never heard of getting lettered for not turning up. Banned for a competition yes, lettered no.
If it is club policy you've been a member long enough to know it, and if it applies to you now, accept it.
If it's not policy and you feel you've been singled out then fight it every step of the way.
I'm sorry that you're feeling like this mate as you've always spoken with pride of Scotscraig.
Are the course condition issues possibly just a blip?
How do the majority of your fellow members feel? If there's lots of you feel the same way then get together and try and change things.
Liverbirdie
Ryder Cup Winner
Tell him your dog ate your homework, and you had to re-write an essay on "crop rotation in the 18th century".
If he says that's just stupid, say well you started it.
If he says that's just stupid, say well you started it.
T
thecraw
Guest
Dear Sir,
With regards to my none attendance in last weeks medal I must apologise. I appreciate that this is not acceptable however I feel that I have a valid and justifiable excuse.
Only last week I arrived at Scotscraig for a bounce game with a few mates and due to running late I parked in the rough to the right hand side of the first fairway. Sadly to date I have still not managed to relocate my car in that overgrown jungle that you call rough.
If anybody happens to hand in a Volkswagen then its mine.
Kind regards,
Steve K!
With regards to my none attendance in last weeks medal I must apologise. I appreciate that this is not acceptable however I feel that I have a valid and justifiable excuse.
Only last week I arrived at Scotscraig for a bounce game with a few mates and due to running late I parked in the rough to the right hand side of the first fairway. Sadly to date I have still not managed to relocate my car in that overgrown jungle that you call rough.
If anybody happens to hand in a Volkswagen then its mine.
Kind regards,
Steve K!
bigslice
Tour Winner
send them a letter back being totally honest, that you forgot. (first time in 10 years) but ask them to reply to you by mail with a reply in the next 48 hours otherwise the matter is closed. ps send it by second class post.:whoo:
Playing Devil's Advocate, and don't shoot the messenger, just giving another slant.
A member is ill-mannered (arrogant?) enough not to ring in and cancel his tee time, potentially depriving someone else of a game who could only play around that time. He may also deprive his playing partner of a game because it was a two ball, and there'd be no marker.
The policy for dealing with this has to be equitable across the membership, so it may well be a template letter that everyone receives. What would your response be if someone got a snot-a-gram and someone got a gentle word? Cries of favouritism(?).
If you've been a member long enough you know the process/outcome of your actions.
As for the condition of the course; God's watering system has closed numerous courses and created jungles for rough. Green's staff are struggling to cope with how quick grass is growing at present, e.g. our greens were cut Wed morning, prior to a Team match Wed evening, and they were cut again on the Wed afternoon - 4 bucket loads in the morning and 2 bucket loads in the afternoon.
Just playing Devil's advocate...
A member is ill-mannered (arrogant?) enough not to ring in and cancel his tee time, potentially depriving someone else of a game who could only play around that time. He may also deprive his playing partner of a game because it was a two ball, and there'd be no marker.
The policy for dealing with this has to be equitable across the membership, so it may well be a template letter that everyone receives. What would your response be if someone got a snot-a-gram and someone got a gentle word? Cries of favouritism(?).
If you've been a member long enough you know the process/outcome of your actions.
As for the condition of the course; God's watering system has closed numerous courses and created jungles for rough. Green's staff are struggling to cope with how quick grass is growing at present, e.g. our greens were cut Wed morning, prior to a Team match Wed evening, and they were cut again on the Wed afternoon - 4 bucket loads in the morning and 2 bucket loads in the afternoon.
Just playing Devil's advocate...
duncan mackie
Money List Winner
It was probably 'failure to make tee time or notify club letter A1' but you could always respond
Dear Sir,
I regret that I found myself the victim of an unfortunate set of circumstances that, ultimately, prevented me from either making my start time or contacting the club in advance.
The night before I had been walking home when, deciding to have a half of shandy to quench my summer thirst I dropped in to Liquid. Here I was engaged in conversation by two young ladies who then proceeded to buy me drinks for some considerable time. The only possible explanation for the next 8 hours is that they were systematically spiking my drinks with rohypnol and viagra because I was still hard at it some 10 hours later, long after I was due to tee off.
Yours faithfully
PS please remove my booking for next Sunday's medal as I will be going back to sort this out the night before.
Dear Sir,
I regret that I found myself the victim of an unfortunate set of circumstances that, ultimately, prevented me from either making my start time or contacting the club in advance.
The night before I had been walking home when, deciding to have a half of shandy to quench my summer thirst I dropped in to Liquid. Here I was engaged in conversation by two young ladies who then proceeded to buy me drinks for some considerable time. The only possible explanation for the next 8 hours is that they were systematically spiking my drinks with rohypnol and viagra because I was still hard at it some 10 hours later, long after I was due to tee off.
Yours faithfully
PS please remove my booking for next Sunday's medal as I will be going back to sort this out the night before.
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6inchcup
Journeyman Pro
it sounds like a standard letter,we have a similar situation at my club,failure to turn up or not informing the club 24 hrs prior to tee time that you will not be playing carries a 1 match ban i know it sounds harsh but look on it from the other side WHAT if 10 members decided not to show up and the for some 3 balls would have only 1 player,chaos!!! is it not common courtesy to inform them,as for the op's moan,does he expect preferential treatment because he has not done it before or because he has been a member longer than some others? rules is rules.
Minhoca
Assistant Pro
I would have thought they would want an explanation within a sensible amount of time like a week maybe. Anything could have been happening within a 24hour period. I think they are being unreasonable!
stevek1969
Money List Winner
Its not a moan and i dont expect prefererential treatment its the tone of the letter that hacks me of like i'm a criminal.
The problem with this club is it still thinks its a Gin Palace the last bastion of the British Empire they still fly a Union Jack,well im sorry those days are long gone its the working man who spend hs money in there now.
If i'd got an email asking for a simple reason why i never made my time i wouldn' have bothered but that letter is unaaceptable, the ban i'll take it not a problem to be honest it won't affect me as im working the next few weekends.
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Surprised that nobody has mentioned the playing partner you left stranded on the first tee. Slightly selfish attitude on your part I would say, all you needed to do was make one phone call and you would not be in this situation.
Very over the top reply by your committee though. Perhaps they have an automated responce for no shows.
I would reply and ask to see the Captain to explain how upset you feel.
Very over the top reply by your committee though. Perhaps they have an automated responce for no shows.
I would reply and ask to see the Captain to explain how upset you feel.
stevek1969
Money List Winner
To be honest i don't think its selfish at all ,it was 2 off my mates i was playing with one set of 3 before and one set after so nobody lost out,and when you get called into work at 5am the last think on my mind was cancelling a golf time ,so may people get wrapped up in golf theres more to life than it.
D
Deleted Member 1156
Guest
If you pay monthly then it is usually a credit agreement with a company like Fairway Credit, who pay the money up front to your club and you then pay them back over 12 months. Most likely scenario is if you leave, you will still have to pay the remainder of the loan.
6inchcup
Journeyman Pro
just because it is the working man that spends the money in the club in your words does that mean the club should lower the standard?,my club fly a flag and when a member passes away it is lowered to half mast,a nice touch i think,as for the group being your friends what would you have done if they were strangers.
swanny32
Journeyman Pro
I know my home course isn't the most interesting of courses but I think the only thing that would make me leave my club is if my pro left and went somewhere else. He's superb, explains stuff in a way I understand and has completely changed my game over the last 18 months. I have gone from hacking it around and playing at a push to a 24 handicap to having a lot more confidence, a little bit more consistency and being rather annoyed if I don't play to my lower handicap of 17. Very confident of getting my handicap down to low teens possible 9/10 range within the next couple of years and I put that down to what Craig has been teaching me.
If he left, I'd leave too.
If he left, I'd leave too.
smange
Journeyman Pro
I would tell them to ram it Steve, first time in 10 years and they are sending a snottery letter out, for gods sake its a game of golf on a sunday morning not bloody National Service.
For all the folks who seem to think its ignorant and arrogant, can I ask what you would do if, god forbid, you had an emergency during the night or even worse a death in the family? Are you going to be standing in hosptal thinking...."I must remember to cancel my tee time" I know I wouldnt. Now I know this wasnt the case here but the club didnt know that did they?
For all the folks who seem to think its ignorant and arrogant, can I ask what you would do if, god forbid, you had an emergency during the night or even worse a death in the family? Are you going to be standing in hosptal thinking...."I must remember to cancel my tee time" I know I wouldnt. Now I know this wasnt the case here but the club didnt know that did they?
6inchcup
Journeyman Pro
no they didn't,that is why they are asking for a reason,i would just take the match ban AS it was my fault.
North Mimms
Tour Winner
Our weekend comps are often oversubscribed with a waiting list for those who left it a bit late to sign up,
They are understandablly annoyed to find out that there have been no-shows and they could have slotted in if the member had cancelled.
Some clubs just issue a blanket ban, yours at least gives you an opportunity to explain why you didn't bother to cancel, which means those who really did have a medical emergency wont face an unfair sanction.
They are understandablly annoyed to find out that there have been no-shows and they could have slotted in if the member had cancelled.
Some clubs just issue a blanket ban, yours at least gives you an opportunity to explain why you didn't bother to cancel, which means those who really did have a medical emergency wont face an unfair sanction.
