The Footie Thread

[Mandofred]

Wycombe are doing well this season, probably a bit of a false position but should finish in or around the Play Offs. The new stadium is stuck on a dead end so hard to get to but I've always liked it. Good away end, excellent main stand, terraced home end and one tiny stand as a nod to their non league past.

Any of you ever been inside the old Wycombe ground? Like I said, I was only running past it but in my head it seemed like an old ground that might have had character inside.

 

[road2ruin]

It's about relevant experience though. Howe & Potter have managed in the Premier League at least. Ferguson and Wenger were back in a different era, but Mourinho did win the actual bloody Champion's League from a third-rate league, which was unreal. If Amorim did that with Sporting then I'd say fair play! And usually there are steps if you come from one of those leagues, like doing well with a mid-table side before someone like United take a punt and give them a big job. But maybe I just haven't got used to the fact that United are a mid-table side now. I still think of them as a big club who would be looking at the world's best managers.

The thing is for clubs like United (regardless of league position) is that it's not just about managing a club in the EPL it's about the size of the club and the challenge that comes with it. Any appointment is going to be a punt and neither Howe or Potter had any experience of being at a big club. Potter had Chelsea and didn't fair too well with the pressure that came with it and United is a step up on that.

Thing about Amorim is that, yes, it's a risk as he's coming from a weaker league however if you look at a lot of the other clubs who have shown an interest it's not like we've gone out and come someone out of complete left field.

 

[Billysboots]

Amorim seems like a massive gamble. Success in a third rate league, admittedly with a team that wasn't one of the 'big two' over there. But it's not really a departure from Ten Hag, who also only had success in a third rate league.

But United have tried proven winners. Where did that get them?

The guy may just be the breath of fresh air United need. Ten Hag came with a “solid” reputation. But he had zero charisma from day one. Amorim just seems to have something about him.

He can do absolutely no worse than those who have gone before.

 

[Orikoru]

But United have tried proven winners. Where did that get them?

The guy may just be the breath of fresh air United need. Ten Hag came with a “solid” reputation. But he had zero charisma from day one. Amorim just seems to have something about him.

He can do absolutely no worse than those who have gone before.

I reckon you should have given Moyesy a second bite, it worked for West Ham.

 

[Swango1980]

I reckon you should have given Moyesy a second bite, it worked for West Ham.

Got to stay away from Moyes, he'll be needed back at West Ham soon

 

[Billysboots]

The thing is for clubs like United (regardless of league position) is that it's not just about managing a club in the EPL it's about the size of the club and the challenge that comes with it. Any appointment is going to be a punt and neither Howe or Potter had any experience of being at a big club. Potter had Chelsea and didn't fair too well with the pressure that came with it and United is a step up on that.

Thing about Amorim is that, yes, it's a risk as he's coming from a weaker league however if you look at a lot of the other clubs who have shown an interest it's not like we've gone out and come someone out of complete left field.

Absolutely none of the names talked about before Amorim had me even remotely excited. Seriously. They all left me stone cold.

I had heard about Amorim, but openly admit I didn’t know a lot about him. The more I have read and seen, and the more I hear about his philosophy and how he likes his teams to play, the more excited I am becoming.

It’s going to be an interesting few months whilst he gets his feet under the table and starts putting his plans into action. I for one cannot wait to see how things develop.

 

[Norrin Radd]

Any of you ever been inside the old Wycombe ground? Like I said, I was only running past it but in my head it seemed like an old ground that might have had character inside.

Adams park iirc, I was working in Wycombe and my team Brighton were visiting whilst I was there, Brighton won 2-0

 

[Lord Tyrion]

He can do absolutely no worse than those who have gone before.

We might need to screenshot/pin this post somewhere . Bold words, but I understand the point

 

[2blue]

Wycombe are doing well this season, probably a bit of a false position but should finish in or around the Play Offs. The new stadium is stuck on a dead end so hard to get to but I've always liked it. Good away end, excellent main stand, terraced home end and one tiny stand as a nod to their non league past.

I have only once watched Wycombe play, and that was with 90,000 others at Wembley in '57, when they failed to get their hands on this Trophy though I did. Now, they are playing their football six Steps apart. Classic North, South divide ??

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Absolutely none of the names talked about before Amorim had me even remotely excited. Seriously. They all left me stone cold.

I had heard about Amorim, but openly admit I didn’t know a lot about him. The more I have read and seen, and the more I hear about his philosophy and how he likes his teams to play, the more excited I am becoming.

It’s going to be an interesting few months whilst he gets his feet under the table and starts putting his plans into action. I for one cannot wait to see how things develop.

I don't know whether its going to be "Liverpool reject" or your lot gloating they got him and we didn't, but my understanding it that Liverpool rejected him before appointing Slot as his wage demands were too high as were his demands for who he wanted and how he wanted to play.
I can also remember the ridicule Liverpool got for appointment Slot....
I think Utd have finally got someone who may make them a heavyweight again.
I'm looking forward to the moans of not playing "the Utd way" as I can't see him wanting to play 4-4-2 and wingers getting down the outside. If he's given time, he could make Utd a power they obviously aren't anymore. I doubt they will be like the Fergie years, but at least challenging they could be.

 

[nickjdavis]

I don't know whether its going to be "Liverpool reject" or your lot gloating they got him and we didn't, but my understanding it that Liverpool rejected him before appointing Slot as his wage demands were too high as were his demands for who he wanted and how he wanted to play.
I can also remember the ridicule Liverpool got for appointment Slot....
I think Utd have finally got someone who may make them a heavyweight again.
I'm looking forward to the moans of not playing "the Utd way" as I can't see him wanting to play 4-4-2 and wingers getting down the outside. If he's given time, he could make Utd a power they obviously aren't anymore. I doubt they will be like the Fergie years, but at least challenging they could be.

They appointed Amorim.....not Yoda.

 

[clubchamp98]

They appointed Amorim.....not Yoda.

Yoda might be next if it dosnt work out.

 

[Billysboots]

I don't know whether its going to be "Liverpool reject" or your lot gloating they got him and we didn't, but my understanding it that Liverpool rejected him before appointing Slot as his wage demands were too high as were his demands for who he wanted and how he wanted to play.
I can also remember the ridicule Liverpool got for appointment Slot....
I think Utd have finally got someone who may make them a heavyweight again.
I'm looking forward to the moans of not playing "the Utd way" as I can't see him wanting to play 4-4-2 and wingers getting down the outside. If he's given time, he could make Utd a power they obviously aren't anymore. I doubt they will be like the Fergie years, but at least challenging they could be.

The suggestion is that Liverpool didn’t believe that Amorim could deploy his favoured 3-4-3 with the players available to him, and rather than overhaul the squad they decided to look elsewhere.

I’m not really interested in is what’s gone on previously regarding Amorim, and whether he could have ended up at a rival club. All I’m really interested in is seeing my team play entertaining football. That may not be 4-4-2, but I don’t really care. If Amorim is the coach United need to bring entertaining football back to Old Trafford then he is the man for me. If he makes us truly competitive again then that’s an added bonus.

Said it any number of times now. I watch football, first and foremost, to be entertained. It’s why I started watching United fifty years ago. The league titles, FA Cups and so on are of course great to see, but being entertained for ninety minutes every week is what I pay my money for.

 

[clubchamp98]

The suggestion is that Liverpool didn’t believe that Amorim could deploy his favoured 3-4-3 with the players available to him, and rather than overhaul the squad they decided to look elsewhere.

I’m not really interested in is what’s gone on previously regarding Amorim, and whether he could have ended up at a rival club. All I’m really interested in is seeing my team play entertaining football. That may not be 4-4-2, but I don’t really care. If Amorim is the coach United need to bring entertaining football back to Old Trafford then he is the man for me. If he makes us truly competitive again then that’s an added bonus.

Said it any number of times now. I watch football, first and foremost, to be entertained. It’s why I started watching United fifty years ago. The league titles, FA Cups and so on are of course great to see, but being entertained for ninety minutes every week is what I pay my money for.

A lot of people have lost sight of that last sentence.
Professional football has changed over the decades.

 

[Billysboots]

A lot of people have lost sight of that last sentence.
Professional football has changed over the decades.

Genuinely. I said it on the golf course this morning. Playing with a Gunner and two Liverpool fans. I told them I would far rather watch United lose 1-0 playing breathtaking football than win by the same scoreline playing dross.

They thought I was having a laugh, but I meant it. The football United have played during the last decade has been largely awful, to the point I have largely lost interest. I start each season with renewed enthusiasm but rapidly lose it, not because we no longer challenge, but because we play the sort of bilge that sees us scheduled down the running order on MOTD.

I remember during the Van Gaal era, me and my lad went to Old Trafford for the home game against Norwich just before Christmas. We lost 2-0 but I have never been treated to such abysmal football. It was anti-football. So bad I said I would not go back whilst Van Gaal was there. The only other game I attended under his management was the FA Cup final against Palace which we won, but did so playing filth. I was delighted when he got the boot.

The only time we have played even remotely entertaining football in the years since was under Solskjaer. Sadly, he had no Plan B when his tactics were found wanting, and his interviews illustrated just how shallow he was as a coach.

Amorim comes with a great reputation as a coach who knows how to thrill fans. Can’t wait to be at Old Trafford to see if that’s true.

 

[clubchamp98]

Genuinely. I said it on the golf course this morning. Playing with a Gunner and two Liverpool fans. I told them I would far rather watch United lose 1-0 playing breathtaking football than win by the same scoreline playing dross.

They thought I was having a laugh, but I meant it. The football United have played during the last decade has been largely awful, to the point I have largely lost interest. I start each season with renewed enthusiasm but rapidly lose it, not because we no longer challenge, but because we play the sort of bilge that sees us scheduled down the running order on MOTD.

I remember during the Van Gaal era, me and my lad went to Old Trafford for the home game against Norwich just before Christmas. We lost 2-0 but I have never been treated to such abysmal football. It was anti-football. So bad I said I would not go back whilst Van Gaal was there. The only other game I attended under his management was the FA Cup final against Palace which we won, but did so playing filth. I was delighted when he got the boot.

The only time we have played even remotely entertaining football in the years since was under Solskjaer. Sadly, he had no Plan B when his tactics were found wanting, and his interviews illustrated just how shallow he was as a coach.

Amorim comes with a great reputation as a coach who knows how to thrill fans. Can’t wait to be at Old Trafford to see if that’s true.

Yes the cheating and diving put me off a few years ago.

Watching the CBs just playing it around because ball retention is everything now.
When your CB has the most touches in a game it’s not that exciting.

I must admit this playing out from the back has me chewing my nails but seems the norm now.

 

[Swango1980]

Yes the cheating and diving put me off a few years ago.

Watching the CBs just playing it around because ball retention is everything now.
When your CB has the most touches in a game it’s not that exciting.

I must admit this playing out from the back has me chewing my nails but seems the norm now.

It became the norm soon after they changed the rules for goal kicks.

I think they should revert back to 2019, when a the goal kick could only be passed to someone outside the box

 

[nickjdavis]

Watching the Tamworth v Huddersfield FA Cup match. Tamworth have got a fella on throw-ins who makes Rory Delap and Dave Challinor look like rank amateurs.

Anything from 10 yards inside the Huddersfield half is like a corner for Tamworth!!!

 

[Swango1980]

Watching the Tamworth v Huddersfield FA Cup match. Tamworth have got a fella on throw-ins who makes Rory Delap and Dave Challinor look like rank amateurs.

Anything from 10 yards inside the Huddersfield half is like a corner for Tamworth!!!

Probably the sort of chap that, if you could have roll on roll off subs, he'd be worth £100 million

 

[nickjdavis]

Probably the sort of chap that, if you could have roll on roll off subs, he'd be worth £100 million

Well he's just lobbed one in right under the crossbar and the Huddersfield keeper could only fist it into his own net!!!