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Arthur Wedge
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England squad for Test series against Pakistan: Ben Stokes (capt), Rehan Ahmed, Gus Atkinson, Shoaib Bashir, Harry Brook, Bryson Carse, Jordan Cox, Zak Crawley, Ben Duckett, Josh Hull, Jack Leach, Ollie Pope, Matthew Potts, Joe Root, Jamie Smith, Olly Stone, Chris Woakes.
Not taking Foakes is poor , Smith will be found out behind the stumps
And not sure how Potts manages to go
England drop Dan Lawrence and call up Brydon Carse and Jordan Cox
England drop batter Dan Lawrence for the tour of Pakistan and include uncapped pair Jordan Cox and Brydon Carse in a 17-man squad.
www.bbc.co.uk
Not taking Foakes is poor , Smith will be found out behind the stumps
And not sure how Potts manages to go
HomerJSimpson
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Surrey struggling against a resiliant Somerset side. Personally I am glad England are ringing the changes in the test squad. Better to try them out, especially overseas, and see if they are up to it.
Arthur Wedge
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Good batting but shocking bowling - Aussies going to put on a score here
Arthur Wedge
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Heck of a fight back from England here - Rashid and Livingston turned the game around
Can understand why they picked Overton to then not bowl him
Can understand why they picked Overton to then not bowl him
HomerJSimpson
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Thought England lost it in the opening overs and the bowling to Travis Head in particular. Had he not been able to rampage that quick fifty it would have been a very even contest
Neilds
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Thought Curran was very poor with the ball (again!). He flatters to deceive with a rare good performance that has everyone raving about him but in his first over he kept bowling the same ball time and time again when he was disappearing to all boundaries. Never seemed to learn and change his plan.
HomerJSimpson
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Agree totally. Will be interested to see how they approach the bowling in the next match. We can't let Australia have such a big start.
Arthur Wedge
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Was poor selection for a number
Curran is overrated
No idea why they picked Overton
Never been impressed with Jacks
Cox and Bethall - hard to judge after one game but their T20 records aren’t stand outs
HomerJSimpson
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Cox had a decent Blast tournament with the bat https://www.espncricinfo.com/record...g-by-team/vitality-blast-2024-15943?team=1035
Bethell also played well https://www.espncricinfo.com/cricketers/jacob-bethell-1194959
Bethell also played well https://www.espncricinfo.com/cricketers/jacob-bethell-1194959
Neilds
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Bethell bowled 5 balls in the Hundred this year, how does this make him suitable to bowl against the Aussies?
HomerJSimpson
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AW was talking about batting
Neilds
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I know, I was asking a different question regarding Bethel. Why they bowled a (not even) part timer and left Overton patrolling the outfield seemed strange to me.AW was talking about batting
Arthur Wedge
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There was a lot of strange decisions - from the initial squad , to the selection to the bowling changes
Was a poor performance all around only saving further embarrassment by some very good bowling in the middle
HomerJSimpson
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That did seem strange unless Overton was carrying some kind of injury
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I imagine it was more a case of planning to bowl Overton, but pace on wasn't really working. Take pace off and wickets fell. I would have thought it would be maybe get an over or 2 out of Liam Livingstone, rather than the full allocation. Just a change during the game, rather than sticking to a plan rigidly and hoping it works out
Arthur Wedge
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The prob is they picked 4 pace bowlers plus Curran plus Rashid , Jacks and Livingston
It left them light on batters
Grizzly
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Interestingly, Overton doesn't seem to bowl much in any form of hit and giggle with the exception of his time in the Big Bash - he plays more as a lower middle order hitter who bowls the odd over. I think I understand the limited bowling part; he is a decent red ball bowler on account of his pace and height, but he has never shown particular adaptability and may well be thought quite hittable in the short format.
Where that leaves him as an international selection I don't know. The side they selected felt like it was too heavy on bowling options and light on top order batting. Part of that is the absence of Brook and Smith after the Tests and Buttler injured - and we have to find out about younger players at some stage.
Where that leaves him as an international selection I don't know. The side they selected felt like it was too heavy on bowling options and light on top order batting. Part of that is the absence of Brook and Smith after the Tests and Buttler injured - and we have to find out about younger players at some stage.
HomerJSimpson
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Not helped losing three wickets for 12 runs. Need to get more from the top order. Jacks and Bethell didn't score many on debut but they need time to adjust. Big step playing one of the best white ball teams
Pathetic Shark
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Surrey holding out against Somerset. The BBC feed was full of Somerset fans bitching constantly about Surrey signing the Bangladeshi all-rounder for this game (because over half their team was on England call-ups). Yet all of them were totally ignoring the fact that the Taunton pitch had been completely fixed for a spin fest to suit their own team. Doing everything you can to win is obviously only OK for one team.
