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Sorry if it came across like that ,never thought you were.
TBH it frightened the life out of me at the time.

Until you have experienced it it’s difficult to understand how it affects you.
I felt the same way when the Porsche nearly entered my back door.
Plus the vehicle going into brake melt down mode when you don't expect it is very unsettling.
 

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I felt the same way when the Porsche nearly entered my back door.
Plus the vehicle going into brake melt down mode when you don't expect it is very unsettling.
Yes but I knew there was an 8 wheeler behind me.
By the sound of his horns he wasn’t very happy ! Rightly so imo not his fault.
Them things need some stopping

on this it’s also done it at 20mph!
I moved close to the kerb once to avoid a pothole and the pedestrian collision sensor detected a post someone had put on his grass to stop anyone parking there.
Bloody tech.
 

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Mine has electric assisted braking. Energy lost through braking is diverted into the battery (or more accurately engine generated by braking)

I can set it in "b" mode where take foot off the power and it slows down the car.. much like using engine braking in an ice car.. which people were taught for years
Can I ask you to elaborate on this?

Is it that your car has a setting such that:
1. Lifting off the throttle provides a small amount of regenerative braking that is about the same as the engine braking in an ICE car (and does not put on the brake lights).
2. Breaking gently with the brake pedal invokes more regenerative braking (and puts on the brake lights).
3. Breaking more firmly with the brake pedal finally applies the pads on the discs.
That kind of setup sounds just about ideal to me.

I'm guessing that not all EVs have that kind of facility (but they really should).
 

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I tested mine out this week, you have to put it in to braking regen mode and is not automatic. I was surprised at how much it actually slows the car down.
I found it a bit disorientating as it slowed the car down much more than I would by using the brake pedal.

Mine does also go to recharge mode when I lift my foot off the accelerator and or brake with the pedal.
 

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Can I ask you to elaborate on this?

Is it that your car has a setting such that:
1. Lifting off the throttle provides a small amount of regenerative braking that is about the same as the engine braking in an ICE car (and does not put on the brake lights).
2. Breaking gently with the brake pedal invokes more regenerative braking (and puts on the brake lights).
3. Breaking more firmly with the brake pedal finally applies the pads on the discs.
That kind of setup sounds just about ideal to me.

I'm guessing that not all EVs have that kind of facility (but they really should).

@jim8flog you will get used to it..I bearly use my brakes , I read the road and use b mode

@cliveb all 3 of them are correct, if you don't turn on b mode it won't regen brake automatically it will just reduce the power

Nissan leafs have the 1 pedal driving(brake is still there) but once activated it will fully apply brakes if you take foot off. You just adjust your foot accordingly , very popular once use to it

Mine is the mode you describe, Jim's will be the same as same family of cars (stelliuos)
 

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I never heard of the car manufacturer Neta before, but apparently they are the 1st to get their hands on a new super battery which charges 400km range in 10 minutes. Shengzing batteries are supposed to be cheaper as well.

If this is really that, and when it comes into cars we heard off, then that could be the game changer so many are waiting for.
 

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I never heard of the car manufacturer Neta before, but apparently they are the 1st to get their hands on a new super battery which charges 400km range in 10 minutes. Shengzing batteries are supposed to be cheaper as well.

If this is really that, and when it comes into cars we heard off, then that could be the game changer so many are waiting for.
400km is 250 miles. Let's be generous and assume their cars will do 4 miles per kWh (most do less). 250 miles in 10 mins will require a charge rate of 375kW. I suspect that it will be some time before such chargers are commonplace. AFAIK even Tesla Superchargers max out at 250kW.

But the fact that battery technology is improving is to be applauded, of course.
 

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I never heard of the car manufacturer Neta before, but apparently they are the 1st to get their hands on a new super battery which charges 400km range in 10 minutes. Shengzing batteries are supposed to be cheaper as well.

If this is really that, and when it comes into cars we heard off, then that could be the game changer so many are waiting for.
Neta GT
Base model
0-60 7 secs
Range 350 miles
£19,800

Top of the range
0-60 3.7 secs
Range 360 miles
£24,800
 

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Nissan leafs have the 1 pedal driving(brake is still there) but once activated it will fully apply brakes if you take foot off. You just adjust your foot accordingly , very popular once use to it

My i5 has this, i-Pedal they call it, must admit I haven't used it much as it just felt weird. I should probably give it another go as most other owners thinks it's brilliant!
 

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Those that have EVs, which applies to you:
  • Bought it outright by cash or bank loan
  • On a lease/hire-only scheme for a number of years, either bought from new or second hand
  • On a PCP/right-to-buy scheme for a number of years, either bought from new or second hand
  • If you did a scheme, did you put down a deposit/initial rental?
  • And if you did a scheme, at the end of the contract what are you going to do? Are you worried about the guaranteed future value v market value may mean negativity equity?
Trying to gauge the second hand EV market. I know the ICE market relatively well, but very much mixed signals in the EV world as it seems plenty of EVs around at good second hand prices, but someone must be losing out for them to be like this.
 

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Those that have EVs, which applies to you:
  • Bought it outright by cash or bank loan
  • On a lease/hire-only scheme for a number of years, either bought from new or second hand
  • On a PCP/right-to-buy scheme for a number of years, either bought from new or second hand
  • If you did a scheme, did you put down a deposit/initial rental?
  • And if you did a scheme, at the end of the contract what are you going to do? Are you worried about the guaranteed future value v market value may mean negativity equity?
Trying to gauge the second hand EV market. I know the ICE market relatively well, but very much mixed signals in the EV world as it seems plenty of EVs around at good second hand prices, but someone must be losing out for them to be like this.

Lease. "Hot deal" £820 down £273 a month for 4 years

When it ends I will be handing the car back. Paying any charges for damage then purchasing a second hand Kia niro EV, better build quality, slightly more range and a 2 year old one would come with 5 years left on 7 year warranty

No worries about future value, I'll keep it years. Even if by some disaster it got to 6 years of owning and the battery suddenly degraded to 50% I could still do work and back twice so would be a very handy run around car and would tie in when I'd be looking at what's going on with the big car.

But anyways at the end of that lease I plan to have the money saved to buy that Kia outright

If it wasn't for the size of the Corsa we would use it for every journey when we don't need the massive boot. We just can't fit all the kids in and the wife doesn't like my idea of let them fight it out to miss out on the day out...
 

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Those that have EVs, which applies to you:
  • Bought it outright by cash or bank loan
  • On a lease/hire-only scheme for a number of years, either bought from new or second hand
  • On a PCP/right-to-buy scheme for a number of years, either bought from new or second hand
  • If you did a scheme, did you put down a deposit/initial rental?
  • And if you did a scheme, at the end of the contract what are you going to do? Are you worried about the guaranteed future value v market value may mean negativity equity?
Trying to gauge the second hand EV market. I know the ICE market relatively well, but very much mixed signals in the EV world as it seems plenty of EVs around at good second hand prices, but someone must be losing out for them to be like this.

I bought mine as pre registered 6 months old with just 5 miles on the clock with nearly 10K off the new price, outright purchase. The dealer said they were an overbuy by a major seller, they had 3 in stock when I first enquired and I got the last one.

I previously have bought ex rental cars from them with a similar deal. Last one was petrol less than a year old (16k on the clock) 10k off the new price.
 

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Those that have EVs, which applies to you:
  • Bought it outright by cash or bank loan
  • On a lease/hire-only scheme for a number of years, either bought from new or second hand
  • On a PCP/right-to-buy scheme for a number of years, either bought from new or second hand
  • If you did a scheme, did you put down a deposit/initial rental?
  • And if you did a scheme, at the end of the contract what are you going to do? Are you worried about the guaranteed future value v market value may mean negativity equity?
Trying to gauge the second hand EV market. I know the ICE market relatively well, but very much mixed signals in the EV world as it seems plenty of EVs around at good second hand prices, but someone must be losing out for them to be like this.

Second EV on a salary sacrifice scheme. £915 gross p/m 3 years. no deposit.
Depending on what’s available, if If I’m bored I’ll either pay out to end early, hand back or get another car.

EV’s are over priced new tech priced accordingly to scrape back what they paid in R&D. It’s like when new TV’s come out. They’re thousands but later on a few hundred quid once market saturated. Would not buy on a PCP/HP.
 

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This popped up on my youtube right now
All about (way yo much about) single pedal driving and break lights. Watch tonight when you want to snooze off.
 

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Has anyone looked into switching to EDF?
The seem to have some good deals going
The old players are running scared ATM of octopus as they do really good smart tariff deals for cars, heat pumps, batteries now aswell

The age of people sticking with what they know because they can't be bothered for a few pence is over with the cost of energy these days

I was tempted a few months back to leave octopus for eon as their deal would save me x amount a year, got put off when they said for 2 weeks you go on standard variable then can move to EV tariff once readings are over etc. Would cost me a chunk of that saving .. so a thought for a couple days and then octopus suddenly email saying we have reviewed the market and lowered our incoming price and raised out outgoing price ...

That's how energy companies should be
 
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