The all things EV chat thread

[bobmac]

But just stop calling it a roadster!

I didn't, it was Elon

 

[cliveb]

I didn't, it was Elon

Sorry, I should have made it clear that comment was aimed at Tesla, not you.

 

[Slime]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder bob. Played with one of the marshalls down my club..he drives an Aston we were talking about it. Turns out it was between that and the electric Audi .... he was put off by the charge network ATM but said it was the "best car he has ever driven"

He's obviously never driven a late 90's Land Rover Defender!

 

[Whereditgo]

My partner has a Mini Countryman All4 PHEV which she bought new in December 2017. The electric range was never great, around 20 miles, but recently she has noticed a drop off in range. This week a 'Drive Train' warning light appeared and a BMW roadside assist technician who was sorting an issue with the daughters 1 series offered to run a diagnostic check on the Countryman, it appears that the battery is going to need replacing, 6,000 miles out of warranty!

We are currently waiting for a quote, but it looks like a minimum of £3K!

 

[PJ87]

It seems those worried about EVs won't have to make the switch or worry about it for least another decade or so

Ice car sale ban pushed back to 2035

Im torn as I agree we need to move but does seem a sensible compromise for it to be extended

So long as actual support to get there takes place

 

[Tashyboy]

It seems those worried about EVs won't have to make the switch or worry about it for least another decade or so

Ice car sale ban pushed back to 2035

Im torn as I agree we need to move but does seem a sensible compromise for it to be extended

So long as actual support to get there takes place

The “green“ Can has been kicked down the road. Pardon the pun.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

The “green“ Can has been kicked down the road. Pardon the pun.

Not very far, in fact not very far and hardly at all…as I learn today that, despite what I thought I learned yesterday, if I want to buy a new car in 2030 I will have 80% of all new cars produced to choose an EV from - if indeed the EV route is the route I wish to travel - which it almost certainly would be.

And if not then I’ll have until 2035 to choose a new petrol or diesel from a steadily vanishing (to zero) 20% of the new car market - though I suspect that the vanishing 20% will become ever more expensive and niche, and so not the sort of cars I’d be looking to buy anyway.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Not very far, in fact very little…as I learn today that, despite what I thought I learned yesterday, if I want to buy a new car in 2030 I will have 80% of all new cars produced to choose an EV from - if I indeed the EV route is the route I wish to travel.

And if not then I’ll have until 2035 to choose a new petrol or diesel from a steadily vanishing (to zero) 20% of the new car market - though I suspect that the vanishing 20% will become ever more expensive and niche, and so not the sort of cars I’d be looking to buy anyway.

That was kept under the radar a little but is actually pretty huge.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

That was kept under the radar a little but is actually pretty huge.

Yes it is - and quite different from what I, and I suspect very many others, thought from yesterday.

 

[Piece]

My partner has a Mini Countryman All4 PHEV which she bought new in December 2017. The electric range was never great, around 20 miles, but recently she has noticed a drop off in range. This week a 'Drive Train' warning light appeared and a BMW roadside assist technician who was sorting an issue with the daughters 1 series offered to run a diagnostic check on the Countryman, it appears that the battery is going to need replacing, 6,000 miles out of warranty!

We are currently waiting for a quote, but it looks like a minimum of £3K!

Probably mentioned elsewhere, but I'm following a YouTuber called Tavarish who is restoring a flooded McLaren P1. This is a hybrid car. The battery bank in the P1 would cost £180k to replace. £180k!

 

[PJ87]

Not very far, in fact not very far and hardly at all…as I learn today that, despite what I thought I learned yesterday, if I want to buy a new car in 2030 I will have 80% of all new cars produced to choose an EV from - if indeed the EV route is the route I wish to travel - which it almost certainly would be.

And if not then I’ll have until 2035 to choose a new petrol or diesel from a steadily vanishing (to zero) 20% of the new car market - though I suspect that the vanishing 20% will become ever more expensive and niche, and so not the sort of cars I’d be looking to buy anyway.

Also the cost to fill them will be taxed to hell imo

 

[Hobbit]

A bit wordy but it certainly shows that long journeys are very doable. The infrastructure is definitely there, and the stops seemed reasonable if you’re doing a long journey.

 

[GreiginFife]

I am being provided a BMW iX for the next few days as a courtesy after the actual courtesy car developed a fault

 

[Bunkermagnet]

I am being provided a BMW iX for the next few days as a courtesy after the actual courtesy car developed a fault

Thats about as ugly as the Ssangyong Rodius, or Fiat Multipla.

Was reading an article today and it seems insurance for electirc cars is sky rocketing, if you can get it.
When I asked someone who knows a lot more about these things than I , or many here, the reply was its down to very poor knowledge base for repairs, the costs of electrical spares, and the very long lead times leading to extended hire car costs.

 

[PIng]

Thats about as ugly as the Ssangyong Rodius, or Fiat Multipla.

Was reading an article today and it seems insurance for electirc cars is sky rocketing, if you can get it.
When I asked someone who knows a lot more about these things than I , or many here, the reply was its down to very poor knowledge base for repairs, the costs of electrical spares, and the very long lead times leading to extended hire car costs.

My MG5 costs less to insure than my diesel Citroën did.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

My MG5 costs less to insure than my diesel Citroën did.

Then youre a lucky man.
I have read of insurance companies ( and told of) stopping insuring EV's and those that do, the costs have gone awol....an example a Tesla model Y going from £1k to £4.5k, and thats slightly less than the £5k he originally found quotes for it.

 

[Fade and Die]

Thats about as ugly as the Ssangyong Rodius, or Fiat Multipla.

Was reading an article today and it seems insurance for electirc cars is sky rocketing, if you can get it.
When I asked someone who knows a lot more about these things than I , or many here, the reply was its down to very poor knowledge base for repairs, the costs of electrical spares, and the very long lead times leading to extended hire car costs.

Might explain why my insurance has doubled from £300 for my petrol XC40 to £607 for my Nissan hybrid.

 

[PJ87]

Then youre a lucky man.
I have read of insurance companies ( and told of) stopping insuring EV's and those that do, the costs have gone awol....an example a Tesla model Y going from £1k to £4.5k, and thats slightly less than the £5k he originally found quotes for it.

You are spot on, whilst you can still get cheap (lol cheap) insurance if you shop around some companies are taking the mick and Tesla are ridiculous

I mean a Kia e niro was about £600 to insure (my Corsa is £550) but a model y was £1500 from the same company (best price aswell)

 

[Bunkermagnet]

You are spot on, whilst you can still get cheap (lol cheap) insurance if you shop around some companies are taking the mick and Tesla are ridiculous

I mean a Kia e niro was about £600 to insure (my Corsa is £550) but a model y was £1500 from the same company (best price aswell)

It's not taking the mick. Its down to lack of trained repair staff, very expensive electric components and long repair times with the large hire car costs that people want. They are trying to cover their costs, as we all do .

 

[PJ87]

It's not taking the mick. Its down to lack of trained repair staff, very expensive electric components and long repair times with the large hire car costs that people want. They are trying to cover their costs, as we all do .

When I say taking the mick I mean in general, raising everyone's prices not just EVs etc.

Legalised theft.