The all things EV chat thread

[PJ87]

This looks very good for the future of electric cars if these developments materialise as stated.

Although this speed of development will hit the second hand price of current electric cars hard - and the market has been very soft compared to ICE vehicles over the past year

Toyota electric cars to offer 500-mile range by 2026 with solid state batteries to follow | Auto Express

New battery technology will enable Toyota to increase EV range and decrease cost

www.autoexpress.co.uk

I saw that yesterday, hopefully it happens. However if it does impact second hand people who need just a little run around will be able to snap up some bargains!

 

[bobmac]

Either way, in 3-5 years time the choice of cars will be amazing...both ICE and EV.

It’s amazing what can be done when they wait for Lotus to style the Emira and then they steal it.






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When was the New Lotus Emira design revealed ?

 

[GreiginFife]

Either way, in 3-5 years time the choice of cars will be amazing...both ICE and EV.

When was the New Lotus Emira design revealed ?

May 2021 I believe.

Have to say, first thing I thought looking at the Tesla was, Emira.

The Emeya looks like it will be a stonking EV.

 

[Jimaroid]

Either way, in 3-5 years time the choice of cars will be amazing...both ICE and EV.

When was the New Lotus Emira design revealed ?

In public timeline you got me there. However the 1st generation Tesla Roadster was built on the Lotus Elise chassis. It’s clear to anyone that the 2nd generation Roadster is borrowing heavily from the development access they had to Lotus during its development. They both good looking cars but I’d rather have an Emira.

 

[bobmac]

It’s amazing what can be done when they wait for Lotus to style the Emira and then they steal it.






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From 2018....

 

[Jimaroid]

From 2018....

Yes, well done, are you ignoring the other replies?

You know Tesla contracted Lotus engineering and design originally AND attracted/head hunted a number of their engineers and designers over the last 10 years?

Not difficult dots to connect are they?

 

[Jimaroid]

The Emeya looks like it will be a stonking EV.

Yeah it looks fantastic. I went sniffing for an Eletre but the lead times were ridiculous. I’m going to have to find a new house before getting an Emira or an Emeya though.

Anyway it’s moot. I gave up on the Lotus idea and I’ve got something differently ridiculous coming instead. Might only be a couple of weeks away now.

 

[TimShady]

Take delivery of a Kia Niro next week. Really looking forward to the longer ranges that has over our Renault Zoe.

 

[GreiginFife]

Yeah it looks fantastic. I went sniffing for an Eletre but the lead times were ridiculous. I’m going to have to find a new house before getting an Emira or an Emeya though.

Anyway it’s moot. I gave up on the Lotus idea and I’ve got something differently ridiculous coming instead. Might only be a couple of weeks away now.

I went for an Emira and managed to bag a test drive through Lotus Glasgow. Amazing, just simply stunning. Sadly Lotus and I couldn't find common ground on the final monthly number and how much they were seriously undervaluing the 840. So I walked away (admittedly with a tear in my eye).

What ridiculousness do you have en-route?

My ridiculousness is delivered via the heavily modified M340i pumping out a, frankly, ludicrous 515BHP via a Pure 800 Turbo upgrade, Stage 2 remap and full Milltek downpipes and exhaust system. I pray the wife never finds the receipts!

 

[bobmac]

Yes, well done, are you ignoring the other replies?

You know Tesla contracted Lotus engineering and design originally AND attracted/head hunted a number of their engineers and designers over the last 10 years?

Not difficult dots to connect are they?

Apologies, I thought you meant they copied the styling of the car

 

[Jimaroid]

I went for an Emira and managed to bag a test drive through Lotus Glasgow. Amazing, just simply stunning. Sadly Lotus and I couldn't find common ground on the final monthly number and how much they were seriously undervaluing the 840. So I walked away (admittedly with a tear in my eye).

What ridiculousness do you have en-route?

My ridiculousness is delivered via the heavily modified M340i pumping out a, frankly, ludicrous 515BHP via a Pure 800 Turbo upgrade, Stage 2 remap and full Milltek downpipes and exhaust system. I pray the wife never finds the receipts!

Shame about the Lotus but, yeah, I get it, one last hurrah for combustion engines and that BMW must be Swwwweeeet!

I’ve been agonising over the last year with something that can do a bit of everything. Looking at family adventuring, golf, bikes and all that. The Polestar 3, XC90 and Eletre were all in mind as things that ticked boxes and potentially scratched an itch. But from when I’d starting looking at them to where things got to a few months back the pricing and finance had moved enough for me to walk away.

Then I started looking at a Transporter and Transit Combis again. Something to actually haul things around as our 1983 VW T3 Transporter Camper is past it now and no longer gets the family around with the bikes very conveniently. But the Transporters and Transit Combis are basically end of life and difficult to source, and when you’re so limited in whats available all I could get were a bit low spec. Then one day when looking in on Ford something happened…

I’ve got a new Ranger Raptor coming. You’ll probably be able to see&hear it from Dunfermline. 3 ltr V6 twin turbo, live valve suspension and selectable exhaust valves for “off road use only” I’m hopeful the ECUs get cracked at some point and I’ll remap to the Aussie’s basespec 400hp instead of the EU’s 300hp. Basically does everything except fit in a parking space.

 

[Jimaroid]

So, I guess, “Would you buy an electric car?” is still a no for me. There are many I like but the value vs all round function still isn’t there for me.

Might tempt the wife with a Volvo EX30 next year though.

 

[GreiginFife]

Shame about the Lotus but, yeah, I get it, one last hurrah for combustion engines and that BMW must be Swwwweeeet!

I’ve been agonising over the last year with something that can do a bit of everything. Looking at family adventuring, golf, bikes and all that. The Polestar 3, XC90 and Eletre were all in mind as things that ticked boxes and potentially scratched an itch. But from when I’d starting looking at them to where things got to a few months back the pricing and finance had moved enough for me to walk away.

Then I started looking at a Transporter and Transit Combis again. Something to actually haul things around as our 1983 VW T3 Transporter Camper is past it now and no longer gets the family around with the bikes very conveniently. But the Transporters and Transit Combis are basically end of life and difficult to source, and when you’re so limited in whats available all I could get were a bit low spec. Then one day when looking in on Ford something happened…

I’ve got a new Ranger Raptor coming. You’ll probably be able to see&hear it from Dunfermline. 3 ltr V6 twin turbo, live valve suspension and selectable exhaust valves for “off road use only” I’m hopeful the ECUs get cracked at some point and I’ll remap to the Aussie’s basespec 400hp instead of the EU’s 300hp. Basically does everything except fit in a parking space.

That is definitely different. My mate has a Raptor too and loves it. Bit industrial for me but the V6 sounds excellent. I'm sure those valves will never be used "on road"...

I have parking space issues with the 8er, but it's a length issue rather than a width one. Spaces just aren't long enough these days (well for a car just shy of 5.1m or 16.7ft long anyway).

 

[jim8flog]

Having made the leap myself this week (around 95% of my driving is within 50 miles of my house) I had to smile at myself as I realised I am still looking at the price of diesel and petrol as I drive past garages.

I bought a Peugeot E2008 as I have specific needs for load space.

The garage loaned me an e208 for 10 days so quickly realised some of the pitfulls before making a commitment. It came without a charger and I quickly realised just how many public chargers are not in service and many that are are slow chargers. I realised that every thing on the car the needs electricity relies on the batteries which will affect range eg put the boot down heavily, putting the lights, on putting the heating/cooling on.

I spoke to a 'long term' owner when picking the car up they said they generally get around 200 when the quoted is 229.

 

[bobmac]

as I realised I am still looking at the price of diesel and petrol as I drive past garages.

I still do that 7 months later

 

[PJ87]

Having made the leap myself this week (around 95% of my driving is within 50 miles of my house) I had to smile at myself as I realised I am still looking at the price of diesel and petrol as I drive past garages.

I bought a Peugeot E2008 as I have specific needs for load space.

The garage loaned me an e208 for 10 days so quickly realised some of the pitfulls before making a commitment. It came without a charger and I quickly realised just how many public chargers are not in service and many that are are slow chargers. I realised that every thing on the car the needs electricity relies on the batteries which will affect range eg put the boot down heavily, putting the lights, on putting the heating/cooling on.

I spoke to a 'long term' owner when picking the car up they said they generally get around 200 when the quoted is 229.

Do you have a home charger yet? It has to come with a type 2 charger but a 3 pin plug they stopped supplying . Screw fix do them about £100

Ignore the guess o meter, you will learn to know how much the car can do as to what it thinks

Because when you do something juice happy it calculates if you were doing that constantly .. IE if the air con was firing first up

After 10 mins or so it catchss up

 

[jim8flog]

Do you have a home charger yet? It has to come with a type 2 charger but a 3 pin plug they stopped supplying . Screw fix do them about £100

Ignore the guess o meter, you will learn to know how much the car can do as to what it thinks

Because when you do something juice happy it calculates if you were doing that constantly .. IE if the air con was firing first up

After 10 mins or so it catchss up

Yes I had an OHME fitted but having a bit of struggle getting the cheap rate with OVO*. First real test tonight as they said it was up and running now

It also had a 3 pin charger in the boot.

*OVO do 'Charge Anytime' so it can charge throughout the day working in conjunction with a subsidiary company that decides when there is low demand and turns the charger off and on to suit.

 

[cliveb]

From 2018....

Hello?
Earth to Tesla...
A ROADSTER DOES NOT HAVE A ROOF!!!!

 

[bobmac]

Hello?
Earth to Tesla...
A ROADSTER DOES NOT HAVE A ROOF!!!!

The car is a prototype but the roof can be removed at 5:22

 

[cliveb]

The car is a prototype but the roof can be removed at 5:22

No. Removing that small section of roof leaving the back window in place makes it a Targa.
A roadster has no back window.
I've owned 4 roadsters in my time, one of which (a TVR) could also be configured as a targa.
There is a whole world of difference in the driving experience between a roadster and a targa.

Hey, I don't mind that Tesla have designed a car like that - it looks very nice.
But just stop calling it a roadster!