The all things EV chat thread

[GreiginFife]

is that the compromise you have to make right now until the battery costs come down? Im not sure. isnt the Leaf for example built from recycled plastics or reclaimed or something.

hopefully things will change soon..

There are more that are using recycled plastic but it’s still plastic at the end of the day.

Was it Polestar that used some reprocessed natural fibre for the seats in a concept car? That would be interesting.

It’s not a compromise that I, personally, would make right now as it just looks awful. The ones with the MG also have an EQC which is better, although not an SUV fan it certainly looks like it has better built quality. But then it has the price tag with that.

Still not sure about grille-less cars though… yes, I know they aren’t needed but that EQC just looks odd from the front.

 

[PJ87]

There are more that are using recycled plastic but it’s still plastic at the end of the day.

Was it Polestar that used some reprocessed natural fibre for the seats in a concept car? That would be interesting.

It’s not a compromise that I, personally, would make right now as it just looks awful. The ones with the MG also have an EQC which is better, although not an SUV fan it certainly looks like it has better built quality. But then it has the price tag with that.

Still not sure about grille-less cars though… yes, I know they aren’t needed but that EQC just looks odd from the front.

the hyundai kona electric has it aswell.. or doesnt should I say

personally I prefer EVs that just look like normal cars until you open the charge point... I mean dont get me wrong give me a model Y.. or a ID4 I wont say no but my car for example just looked like your average car until I open the "fuel cap" and there is a socket there to charge it

the new KIA EV6 is it? thats one weird future looking car ..

 

[Bunkermagnet]

A TOP speed of 78mph?
Unless you are prepared to drive like a snail, they are going to frustrate the life out of everyone in or around them.

 

[spongebob59]

A TOP speed of 78mph?
Unless you are prepared to drive like a snail, they are going to frustrate the life out of everyone in or around them.

78 mph is fine as we'll all be stuck behind cyclists

 

[Deleted member 29109]

A TOP speed of 78mph?
Unless you are prepared to drive like a snail, they are going to frustrate the life out of everyone in or around them.

Why is a top speed that is above the maximum speed allowed going to frustrate anyone?

 

[PJ87]

A TOP speed of 78mph?
Unless you are prepared to drive like a snail, they are going to frustrate the life out of everyone in or around them.

Yet the legal limit is 70 max .. if down a country lane it's 60 max so who exactly can get annoyed at people going the speed limit .. under yeah I get that but if someone is doing the limit you can't get angry at them.

If they are in the "fast" lane on motorway people may get cross.. but they can always sit in lane 1.. or lane 2 if overtaking .... Perfectly fine.

 

[Blue in Munich]

I’m pretty sure that maximum speed won’t have been fully loaded, or uphill, or into a headwind or all 3; so whilst it can do the legal maximum on paper, real world it probably won’t and it will take some time to get to its its maximum speed, so if used on National speed limit roads it’s probably going to impact other road users.

But as an urban runabout it seems fine and it’s getting nearer to affordable for the masses.

 

[bobmac]

If you have 5 kids, don't buy a one bedroom flat, buy what you need.
If you want to race up and down the German autobahns at 200 mph, buy a Lambo

People have been complaining there are too many big expensive electric SUVs being released and there is some truth in that, but when someone builds a smaller, cheaper, compact car which is perfect for city/semi rural life, the anti-EVers complain that it wont break the speed limit enough to keep them happy.

 

[PJ87]

If you have 5 kids, don't buy a one bedroom flat, buy what you need.
If you want to race up and down the German autobahns at 200 mph, buy a Lambo

People have been complaining there are too many big expensive electric SUVs being released and there is some truth in that, but when someone builds a smaller, cheaper, compact car which is perfect for city/semi rural life, the anti-EVers complain that it wont break the speed limit enough to keep them happy.

To be fair Bob. The flat is a bad example considering the cost of housing and people having to live in what they can afford rather than what they need

Which due to cost of EVs etc is becoming the same ATM

However all that said the real problem is the race to the bottom this country prides itself in..

However if I carry in I 100% will get political so I won't carry on

 

[Slime]

Why is a top speed that is above the maximum speed allowed going to frustrate anyone?

I'm just wondering how long it'd take to reach said legal speed limit.
I would never want to be behind one on a non-motorway.

 

[PJ87]

I'm just wondering how long it'd take to reach said legal speed limit.
I would never want to be behind one on a non-motorway.

15 seconds 0-60

But call it 30 seconds to a minute

 

[bobmac]

To be fair Bob. The flat is a bad example considering the cost of housing and people having to live in what they can afford rather than what they need

If you can afford a 5 bedroom house but you buy a one bedroom flat then you would be daft.
If you spend 99% of your life inside the M25 and you buy a 190mph Lambo you would be equally daft.
Buy what suits your needs.

Average speeds in London...
8.7 mph to 7.1 mph in central London
12.5 mph to 11.6 mph in inner London
20.3 mph to 19.3 mph in outer London

78mph is plenty for city/semi rural life.

 

[PJ87]

If you can afford a 5 bedroom house but you buy a one bedroom flat then you would be daft.
If you spend 99% of your life inside the M25 and you buy a 190mph Lambo you would be equally daft.
Buy what suits your needs.

Average speeds in London...
8.7 mph to 7.1 mph in central London
12.5 mph to 11.6 mph in inner London
20.3 mph to 19.3 mph in outer London

78mph is plenty for city/semi rural life.

We have had this example used against myself in the past and their right

It's not always the way

So the juggernaut suits my needs for the kids ..

To get an EV version of anything near it I'm looking at 60k minimum . Less in coming years as they get out of car seats

So we need cheaper and more practical

It's not a one size fit , but it's getting better month by month for sure

 

[Bunkermagnet]

I’m pretty sure that maximum speed won’t have been fully loaded, or uphill, or into a headwind or all 3; so whilst it can do the legal maximum on paper, real world it probably won’t and it will take some time to get to its its maximum speed, so if used on National speed limit roads it’s probably going to impact other road users.

But as an urban runabout it seems fine and it’s getting nearer to affordable for the masses.

Someone who understands that a top speed of "only 78" isn't going to be 78 in the real World.

 

[bobmac]

Someone who understands that a top speed of "only 78" isn't going to be 78 in the real World.

I understand it all right, I'm just wondering what part of cloud cookoo land you live in where you can drive around at 70, bearing in mind the average city speeds I quoted above.
What do you do in the real world if you are behind a bus or a lorry or other slow moving vehicles in town?
If you don't live in the city, get whatever you want

 

[road2ruin]

So the house electric upgrades have all been completed for the princely sum of £100.

Bulb came and upgrade our meter tails and installed an isolator switch in the meter cupboard and the UK Power Networks arrived to upgrade our master fuse to 100a so we don't trip the electrics every time we charge the car. We're getting a Hypervolt charger installed next week, the installer said that they're starting to turn away business at the moment as there's the late rush for chargers before the grant finishes at the end of March, he simply doesn't have the time to get it all done. He's not going to miss the paperwork involved of getting the grant!!

 

[PJ87]

So the house electric upgrades have all been completed for the princely sum of £100.

Bulb came and upgrade our meter tails and installed an isolator switch in the meter cupboard and the UK Power Networks arrived to upgrade our master fuse to 100a so we don't trip the electrics every time we charge the car. We're getting a Hypervolt charger installed next week, the installer said that they're starting to turn away business at the moment as there's the late rush for chargers before the grant finishes at the end of March, he simply doesn't have the time to get it all done. He's not going to miss the paperwork involved of getting the grant!!

Any reason you went with them? Podpoint and zappi are smart chargers so if the house pulls too much when your charging the car it throttles the car down to keep it under the fuse (60a fuse for me)

Then again £100 for upgrade? I may have to look into ..

I monitor my electric on my phone and most I've ever pulled (including charging) is 45amp

 

[Bunkermagnet]

I understand it all right, I'm just wondering what part of cloud cookoo land you live in where you can drive around at 70, bearing in mind the average city speeds I quoted above.
What do you do in the real world if you are behind a bus or a lorry or other slow moving vehicles in town?
If you don't live in the city, get whatever you want

Of course you well know I’m not talking about doing those speeds around towns. It’s about the overtaking ability of something that is obviously not that well powered especially if loaded up.
My wife had a Yaris hybrid, that whilst very cheap to run, made her so nervous if she had to overtake anything as it was so underpowered when out on the modern roads dealing with modern traffic.

 

[road2ruin]

Any reason you went with them? Podpoint and zappi are smart chargers so if the house pulls too much when your charging the car it throttles the car down to keep it under the fuse (60a fuse for me)

Then again £100 for upgrade? I may have to look into ..

I monitor my electric on my phone and most I've ever pulled (including charging) is 45amp

The main reason for going with them was that our regular electrician recommended them and installs loads of them. We looked at Podpoint, Zappi and Hypervolt and they all looked very good, I'd imagine we'd have been happy with whichever we'd have chosen as the reviews are all very positive, in the end it was purely down to the recommendation. We decided we might as well upgrade the master fuse given the costs involved as it gives us an element of future proofing the property and seeing as we had other electric jobs being done and our electrician was upgrading our consumer unit anyway.

The upgrade cost was from Bulb for them to come and upgrade the meter tails. UK Power Networks do their bit for free as long as it doesn't involve expensive remedial works such as digging up driveways etc!!

 

[bobmac]

My wife had a Yaris hybrid, that whilst very cheap to run, made her so nervous if she had to overtake anything as it was so underpowered when out on the modern roads dealing with modern traffic.

Hybrid
I wonder how much faster it would be if didn't have to carry the big lump of 1.5-1.8 engine, clutch and gearbox around