Submitting scores on a Captain's Away Day

[Singlefiguregokfer]

i can't understand why people are opposed to submitting cards at every opportunity - regardless - if you're playing in qualifying conditions then what's the problem? Granted if you've gone out for a practice then there's no sense in submitting a score but if you're playing with mates or a group with a view to winning - whether it be for the honour or for prizes, then get a card in.

What if you’re playing matchplay. Picking up, playing friendly rules etc?

 

[Mel Smooth]

What if you’re playing matchplay. Picking up, playing friendly rules etc?

Well then you wouldn't be playing qualifying conditions would you. If you're picking up, it's golf practice.

 

[wjemather]

Are you that far detached from how a club golfing thinks to not understand how a lot of people think when they have a handicap card in their hand - people spend fortunes going to mind coaches and learning techniques to try and help them keep calm

We play golf for fun , it’s a social sport with a little bit of competition thrown in there

Charity days , away days , society days or meets are not about the competition first and foremost- it’s about playing in a relaxed environment and enjoying a course

If someone wants to put a card in during that away day then crack on , if someone doesn’t - who cares , it doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of a club golfer

I know fun and enjoyment are such nasty works these days but it seems the WHS has given the handicap police a bit more self importance

I’ll prefer to treat people as adults and let them make their own decision

A handicap index is not a trophy. Some people simply need to stop treating it like one.

 

[Singlefiguregokfer]

Well then you wouldn't be playing qualifying conditions would you. If you're picking up, it's golf practice.

I asked become mates and I always play matchplay when not in a comp.

 

[IanM]

As a member of the M&H committee I doubt it.
The main point is that none of us are handicap nazis, so no worries for our members.
Apply the rules, but also acknowledge common sense should be applied.

Amen to that

 

[IanM]

A handicap index is not a trophy. Some people simply need to stop treating it like one.

Indeed. And golf, for many is a socialable recreation, strict scoring and handicapping sometimes take a back seat.

It's not about handicap protection, for some, it's a break from formality.

 

[Singlefiguregokfer]

Indeed. And golf, for many is a socialable recreation, and strict scoring, handicapping sometimes take a back seat.

It's not about handicap protection, for some, it's a break from formality.

I don’t understand what you’re saying…are you suggesting that golf is a hobby rather than a punishment?

 

[pendodave]

I asked become mates and I always play matchplay when not in a comp.

Exactly. We do the same. It's very much proper golf.
Cards in comps, matchplay with mates.
Will all those Wentworth trophies that seve et al win be tossed in the "practice" bin now??
If we've not played a comp for a bit, and have time to play a marked 9 or 18, then we'll do a general play card with strokeplay rules applying.

 

[IanM]

I don’t understand what you’re saying…are you suggesting that golf is a hobby rather than a punishment?

I'm saying it can be many things to different people.

Competition golf is exactly that. Strict rules etc etc.

However, Some rounds, like captains away day, "might" be less serious if the group want it. (In my view) My mates and I nip out on a summer's evening and dont even keep score. Lots of chat and fresh air.

When I played cricket, league on a Saturday. Serious head on. Every ball.... aiming for no byes and no missed chances. I played for my home village on Sunday... I might not even keep wicket, heck they even let me bowl sometimes.

I make the same distinction with golf. There's comps and not comps. Nowt to do with handicap management or anything. Its about mind set.

The intention of golf regulators appears to be to remove this distinction. All rounds to count unless conditions dictate otherwise. They even want partial rounds to count.

If you impose stuff, don't be suprised if some folk ignore it

 

[sunshine]

Yeah I'd side with how seriously you individually take the event? Some may have a fun day out with booze etc, others may go with a competition mentality.

Can’t you have fun and submit a card?

 

[Singlefiguregokfer]

Can’t you have fun and submit a card?

You can
But I don’t find beer and a good score go hand in hand

 

[Bratty]

You can
But I don’t find beer and a good score go hand in hand

Nor do most Americans...

 

[sunshine]

Nor do most Americans...

Although they somehow manage to maintain very low indexes

 

[Singlefiguregokfer]

Although they somehow manage to maintain very low indexes

Because they put in all cards, even friendly knocks With mulligans, gimmies and leather wedges.

 

[sunshine]

You can
But I don’t find beer and a good score go hand in hand

Then it wont be one of your best 8 and will have no impact

 

[Singlefiguregokfer]

Then it wont be one of your best 8 and will have no impact

So why even bother submitting it?

 

[Swango1980]

Its a relaxed fun day for most , no one is caring about handicaps , for most it’s getting out to enjoy another course

Making all these events “handicap qualifying” will stop people entering as they aren’t there to worry about their handicap or their scores

H4H is a perfect example , there is no pressure on anyone to worry about handicaps, raising money for a worthwhile charity is the main point - people don’t want to see a handicap secretary standing at the front door checking everyone’s card to make sure it’s added.

Some people just can’t seperate themselves

A bit of irony there. Nobody cares about handicaps. But they'll be interested in who wins, and the winner will be very happy.

The winner will be determined by a score. The score will be calculated using..........

a handicap!

 

[sunshine]

I think the overall conclusion is that 99% of people should be allowed to choose whether they want to submit a card or not. But this doesn’t deal with bandits. As always the minority of idiots ruin it for the majority.

 

[Bdill93]

Can’t you have fun and submit a card?

I’d have more fun if I didn’t. Plus I have to carry round my massive phallus after hitting multiple drivers off the deck.

Bit of music, few beers and just vibes mate!

In all seriousness, yes I can, but zero pressure golf with a few gimmies is more fun, plus when your mates are god awful you lose focus on your own score rather quickly.

Horses for courses

 

[Swango1980]

I’d have more fun if I didn’t. Plus I have to carry round my massive phallus after hitting multiple drivers off the deck.

Bit of music, few beers and just vibes mate!

In all seriousness, yes I can, but zero pressure golf with a few gimmies is more fun, plus when your mates are god awful you lose focus on your own score rather quickly.

Horses for courses

Better not go to the Captain's Away day in the OP then. No gimmes.

Cash prizes as well. I'm sure that will attract one or two members who have higher handicaps than you'd expect.

But we should def make sure they don't risk a handicap cut if they do well, otherwise the fun would be sucked out for everyone