Submitting scores on a Captain's Away Day

[2blue]

What’s funny?

What's funny (Not) is the suggestion that the H/cap Sec should retrain the cards for possible use at AR rather than simply submitting the scores at the time.

 

[Deleted member 29109]

I don’t get all this card’s going in every round.
I’ve never understood people putting in cards playing in a 4 ball with mates,unless it’s their only opportunity to put in cards.
There is no pressure.
There is plenty of opportunity during the season to play comps and put in cards to have a genuine handicap.

Recently a few guys from my club went to Scotland to play.
One guy has 38 points and wants to submit a card after his round (not declaring it before)ridiculous imo.
Another guy shoots 45 points but doesn’t submit his card.
Talk about managing your handicap.

Why is there any pressure playing in a comp compared to a GP round?

Does the thought of winning a bit of pro shop credit really make people lose their nerve?

 

[2blue]

I don’t get all this card’s going in every round.
I’ve never understood people putting in cards playing in a 4 ball with mates,unless it’s their only opportunity to put in cards.
There is no pressure.
There is plenty of opportunity during the season to play comps and put in cards to have a genuine handicap.

Recently a few guys from my club went to Scotland to play.
One guy has 38 points and wants to submit a card after his round (not declaring it before)ridiculous imo.
Another guy shoots 45 points but doesn’t submit his card.
Talk about managing your handicap.

The OP is not about that.... there's another equally busy thread for that idea.

 

[pokerjoke]

Why is there any pressure playing in a comp compared to a GP round?

Does the thought of winning a bit of pro shop credit really make people lose their nerve?

I believe it does tbh

 

[Deleted member 15344]

This is the problem now with the handicap police

They miss the whole point of away days and meets and charity days

Trying to suck all the fun out of it

Everyone is a grown up , put a card in if you want , don’t if you don’t want too

 

[IanM]

At our club, the captain would say if it was a qualifying round or not. Traditionally, it hasn't been (as far as I know) so my guess is, it wouldn't be.

Frankly, who cares? It's a one off, away from the club.

I know we have folk loitering at Pirate Pete's Mini Golf, reprimanding 6 year olds for Rules Infringements, but have a day off.

 

[nickjdavis]

I know we have folk loitering at Pirate Pete's Mini Golf, reprimanding 6 year olds for Rules Infringements, but have a day off.

Yeah the amount of double hits I see or push shots at my local mini-golf...wonder how some folk would survive without penalising little Emily a couple of strokes when she's just holed out for a 14.

 

[Deleted member 35577]

If someone is an elite golfer would submitting a card in these circumstances count as a general play card? Asking for a friend....................

 

[wjemather]

This is the problem now with the handicap police

They miss the whole point of away days and meets and charity days

Trying to suck all the fun out of it

Everyone is a grown up , put a card in if you want , don’t if you don’t want too

Alternatively...
Everyone is a grown up - so just abide by the rules (that you agreed to when obtaining a handicap) and stop making life difficult for volunteer handicap committees by trying to pick and choose when and where those rules apply.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Alternatively...
Everyone is a grown up - so just abide by the rules (that you agreed to when obtaining a handicap) and stop making life difficult for volunteer handicap committees by trying to pick and choose when and where those rules apply.

Its a relaxed fun day for most , no one is caring about handicaps , for most it’s getting out to enjoy another course

Making all these events “handicap qualifying” will stop people entering as they aren’t there to worry about their handicap or their scores

H4H is a perfect example , there is no pressure on anyone to worry about handicaps, raising money for a worthwhile charity is the main point - people don’t want to see a handicap secretary standing at the front door checking everyone’s card to make sure it’s added.

Some people just can’t seperate themselves

 

[IanM]

I'm sure some folk boycott H4H as a result

 

[Singlefiguregokfer]

Surely it depends if it is a serious event or involves a pre-round piss up etc

Last year for ours was a serious game, so we did submit them.
This year will be beers on the coach, lunch with wine and then golf.
So I doubt any cards will be submitted.

 

[IanM]

So I doubt any cards will be submitted.

You'll all be excommunicated!

 

[wjemather]

Its a relaxed fun day for most , no one is caring about handicaps , for most it’s getting out to enjoy another course

Making all these events “handicap qualifying” will stop people entering as they aren’t there to worry about their handicap or their scores

H4H is a perfect example , there is no pressure on anyone to worry about handicaps, raising money for a worthwhile charity is the main point - people don’t want to see my handicap secretary standing at the front door checking everyone’s card to make sure it’s added.

Some people just can’t seperate themselves

Why would anyone be worrying about their handicap, unless they have they attached some unwarranted prestige to it (and the meaningless club Stableford comps it's largely based on), or think it is something to be managed or manipulated?

 

[Backache]

Why would anyone be worrying about their handicap, unless they have they attached some unwarranted prestige to it (and the meaningless club Stableford comps it's largely based on), or think it is something to be managed or manipulated?

If its of no concern or worry why worry that the rules are in any way followed?

 

[Bratty]

I voted no, because if it's a course I haven't played before I have rarely beaten handicap (with the exception of Hankley Common where I was 4 under handicap - still came 2nd! ) and it's a fun away weekend.

 

[nickjdavis]

Surely it depends if it is a serious event or involves a pre-round piss up etc

Last year for ours was a serious game, so we did submit them.
This year will be beers on the coach, lunch with wine and then golf.
So I doubt any cards will be legible.

Corrected the final word for you.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Why would anyone be worrying about their handicap, unless they have they attached some unwarranted prestige to it (and the meaningless club Stableford comps it's largely based on), or think it is something to be managed or manipulated?

Are you that far detached from how a club golfer thinks to not understand how a lot of people think when they have a handicap card in their hand - people spend fortunes going to mind coaches and learning techniques to try and help them keep calm

We play golf for fun , it’s a social sport with a little bit of competition thrown in there

Charity days , away days , society days or meets are not about the competition first and foremost- it’s about playing in a relaxed environment and enjoying a course

If someone wants to put a card in during that away day then crack on , if someone doesn’t - who cares , it doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of a club golfer

I know fun and enjoyment are such nasty works these days but it seems the WHS has given the handicap police a bit more self importance

I’ll prefer to treat people as adults and let them make their own decision

 

[Singlefiguregokfer]

You'll all be excommunicated!

As a member of the M&H committee I doubt it.
The main point is that none of us are handicap nazis, so no worries for our members.
Apply the rules, but also acknowledge common sense should be applied.

 

[Mel Smooth]

i can't understand why people are opposed to submitting cards at every opportunity - regardless - if you're playing in qualifying conditions then what's the problem? Granted if you've gone out for a practice then there's no sense in submitting a score but if you're playing with mates or a group with a view to winning - whether it be for the honour or for prizes, then get a card in.