Sock gate (again)

[Captainron]

As touched on in the video I posted it boils down to “class”. Jeans not allowed in the club house is a prime example (in some clubhouses before people jump on the example).. these were originally brought in when jeans weren’t what they are today.. jeans are now opening worn as smart casual to many events, fashionable. Where as in years gone by they were worn as working mans clothes. So can’t possible have them allowed at the golf club. Stops tradesmen popping into the clubhouse on way home from work for a pint rather than going to the pub. Us and them. Pure and simple.

As the video touched on black socks are mainly seen as office socks.. ie you have worn them to the office you can’t possible now wear them for golf. You must wear a sports sock (because you can’t wear white to the office)

Dress it up however people claim to “maintain standards” it’s trying to maintain the line between working class and middle class by mostly people who are actually working class and don’t want to appear working class so insist on the dress code to hide the fact their working class.

Deluded

 

[Foxholer]

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Dress it up however people claim to “maintain standards” it’s trying to maintain the line between working class and middle class by mostly people who are actually working class and don’t want to appear working class so insist on the dress code to hide the fact their working class.

Twaddle!

 

[Captainron]

Unfortunate but probably not undeserved though.

Either way, we are a lot of pages in and no one can explain why the rule exists, why it came about, and why it shouldn't be scrapped. Other of course than 'standards'

Why it exists is flipping irrelevant.

The fact that it actually exists means that it has to be adhered to or you don’t get to play.

If a club ever changes the rule then whatever they change it to will need to be adhered to.

If you don’t like the rule then don’t play those courses that require white socks.

 

[Captainron]

And my thoughts are that sports socks are generally white and easily obtainable by “all classes” and that having one colour makes everyone the same. Plus it’s easy to see when someone has broken the rule.

 

[Jimaroid]

Anyone else slightly hesitate and have a good laugh to themselves whilst putting their socks on this morning?

 

[Captainron]

Anyone else slightly hesitate and have a good laugh to themselves whilst putting their socks on this morning?

I only own white socks because I play golf so I’m okay

 

[Jacko_G]

Getting told you can't wear a certain colour of socks, is that against my human rights?

😝😝😝😝

 

[PhilTheFragger]

I k

As touched on in the video I posted it boils down to “class”. Jeans not allowed in the club house is a prime example (in some clubhouses before people jump on the example).. these were originally brought in when jeans weren’t what they are today.. jeans are now opening worn as smart casual to many events, fashionable. Where as in years gone by they were worn as working mans clothes. So can’t possible have them allowed at the golf club. Stops tradesmen popping into the clubhouse on way home from work for a pint rather than going to the pub. Us and them. Pure and simple.

As the video touched on black socks are mainly seen as office socks.. ie you have worn them to the office you can’t possible now wear them for golf. You must wear a sports sock (because you can’t wear white to the office)

Dress it up however people claim to “maintain standards” it’s trying to maintain the line between working class and middle class by mostly people who are actually working class and don’t want to appear working class so insist on the dress code to hide the fact their working class.

I know my place ...

Class distinction is so 1970’s , don’t think it’s a relevant argument in this day and age.

I don’t agree with these stringent dress codes, they are a throwback to a distant time, but if Sunningdale says to wear white socks with shorts, then white socks is what I shall and indeed did, wear.

It’s their trainset, if you want to play those courses then you follow their rules even if you think they are archaic.

 

[clubchamp98]

To prove a point some years ago my mate dressed the same as his wife ( cue jokes).
He wore a white tee shirt with no sleeves ,black shorts and black socks.
His wife was dressed exactly the same.
He was refused on the course and clubhouse because he had improperly dressed for golf.
But his wife was fine.

One of the main things in our club is equality.
That black socks were ok is fine.
We have a white sock rule but any other colour worn will not be asked to leave just advised if coming back again.
Although I don’t know anyone who has been pulled up and most wear what they want.

 

[clubchamp98]

Anyone else slightly hesitate and have a good laugh to themselves whilst putting their socks on this morning?

It’s pissing down in Liverpool so no white socks today.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Ambient outside temperature 16 and over.....on with the shorts. Workday, black trainer socks with the safety trainers. Not going to work.....white trainer socks and whatever footwear is needed

 

[Foxholer]

To prove a point some years ago my mate dressed the same as his wife ( cue jokes).
He wore a white tee shirt with no sleeves ,black shorts and black socks.
His wife was dressed exactly the same.
He was refused on the course and clubhouse because he had improperly dressed for golf.
But his wife was fine.

One of the main things in our club is equality.
That black socks were ok is fine.

A similar 'challenge' was suggested at a previous club!

The result was 2 changes to the dress code - both involving socks! Black socks with shorts were 'discouraged' rather than banned. Men were allowed to wear 'bobble' socks (the 'foot only' ones that are prevented from falling into shoes by a 'bobble'). The continuation of the 'sleeved' shirt requirement (Men only) was explained as required to be 'normal/reasonably tidy' clothing over-riding the 'equality' aspects.

 

[PJ87]

I k


I know my place ...

Class distinction is so 1970’s , don’t think it’s a relevant argument in this day and age.

I don’t agree with these stringent dress codes, they are a throwback to a distant time, but if Sunningdale says to wear white socks with shorts, then white socks is what I shall and indeed did, wear.

It’s their trainset, if you want to play those courses then you follow their rules even if you think they are archaic.

To which I do if I choose to play them

But the reason why they were put in place is what I posted. Pure and simple.

 

[clubchamp98]

A similar 'challenge' was suggested at a previous club!

The result was 2 changes to the dress code - both involving socks! Black socks with shorts were 'discouraged' rather than banned. Men were allowed to wear 'bobble' socks (the 'foot only' ones that are prevented from falling into shoes by a 'bobble'). The continuation of the 'sleeved' shirt requirement (Men only) was explained as required to be 'normal/reasonably tidy' clothing over-riding the 'equality' aspects.

So women wearing sleeveless blouse is untidy using that logic.?

The whole point of equality is you don’t override aspects surely.

It all all started at ours because women could wear trainer socks and we could not.

 

[Foxholer]

So women wearing sleeveless blouse is untidy using that logic.?
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No!

Though, from my limited experience of ladies clothing a sleveless 'blouse' might be! 'Top' was the description that sprang to my mind.

And likewise, it was the boblle/trainer sock issue that was the main 'controversy' at that review.

 

[PNWokingham]

Wow. What a cracking read!! Jim summed it up earlier in that there are dress codes in many areas - school, work, nightclubs, playing bowls, Army, football etc. Why they are there is often historic and sometimes safety. You don't like the rules at your club, campaign to change - chances are if the majority agree, they will be changed - democracy, evolution - bless the Lord! You go to another club, where the rules have been made or evolved in a similar way, you play by their rules or you go and sit in the corner! You play for your local sunday league team and they have red tops and yellow socks, you do it or do you mean that the yellow socks are part of a working-class conspiracy!!

This forum has been taken over by a few real cockwambles that just post or argue for the sake of it - time for a cull, but that is for another time

 

[PhilTheFragger]

This forum has been taken over by a few real cockwambles that just post or argue for the sake of it - time for a cull, but that is for another time

I have a list 👍

 

[robinthehood]

Wow. What a cracking read!! Jim summed it up earlier in that there are dress codes in many areas - school, work, nightclubs, playing bowls, Army, football etc. Why they are there is often historic and sometimes safety. You don't like the rules at your club, campaign to change - chances are if the majority agree, they will be changed - democracy, evolution - bless the Lord! You go to another club, where the rules have been made or evolved in a similar way, you play by their rules or you go and sit in the corner! You play for your local sunday league team and they have red tops and yellow socks, you do it or do you mean that the yellow socks are part of a working-class conspiracy!!

This forum has been taken over by a few real cockwambles that just post or argue for the sake of it - time for a cull, but that is for another time

Oof, perfect example of the attitude that stinks through out the game.

 

[Imurg]

Wow. What a cracking read!! Jim summed it up earlier in that there are dress codes in many areas - school, work, nightclubs, playing bowls, Army, football etc. Why they are there is often historic and sometimes safety. You don't like the rules at your club, campaign to change - chances are if the majority agree, they will be changed - democracy, evolution - bless the Lord! You go to another club, where the rules have been made or evolved in a similar way, you play by their rules or you go and sit in the corner! You play for your local sunday league team and they have red tops and yellow socks, you do it or do you mean that the yellow socks are part of a working-class conspiracy!!

This forum has been taken over by a few real cockwambles that just post or argue for the sake of it - time for a cull, but that is for another time

I hear you Slasher...
But have you never wondered why knee length black socks are ok but ankle length black socks aren't...?

 

[Bunkermagnet]

I hear you Slasher...
But have you never wondered why knee length black socks are ok but ankle length black socks aren't...?

Could it be because garter belt have straps that just might reach the knee?