Smart Motorways
- Thread starter SaintHacker
- Start date
Bunkermagnet
Journeyman Pro
And what about when there is no lorries about and lanes 1 and 2 are empty, and yet still the cars sit in lanes 3 and 4?
SammmeBee
Journeyman Pro
Doesn’t happen on the M25......
Bunkermagnet
Journeyman Pro
Perhaps you cant see the inside 3 lanes from the 4th lane then
D
Deleted Member 1156
Guest
I love driving on the M25. Full of muppets in lanes 2, 3 & 4, you have a clear stress free run in lane 1 ?
Pants
Challenge Tour Pro
M25 quiet tonight. No-one to be seen in lane 1.
DanFST
Head Pro
I do that. People are idiots and I want to be as far away as possible from them.
I'll sit there if its empty, unless someone is behind me.
USER1999
Grand Slam Winner
I don't often drive in lane 1. When I do, it is so badly rutted through hgv use that my car tramlines which doesn't feel safe, and probably induces wear into the car mechanicals.
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
So you agree breaking down on a smart motorway is extremely dangerous. Imagine if it was a disabled or frail person, what chance would they have?
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
Everything is more dangerous for certain people it's impossible to make safer for all
Did you know what the protocol is for disabled customers if fire breaks out on a tube station?
They are to be escorted to behind a firedoor and told the fire service will be briefed of your location
Not safe but in emergency you can't make everything fully safe to same levels for everyone
SaintHacker
Journeyman Pro
I agree that breaking down on any road could be dangerous
SaintHacker
Journeyman Pro
Yep. We are told in an evacuation situation get as many out as possible as quickly as possible, to the point of leaving a wheelchair user in the coach/bus if it puts me at risk getting them out. Harsh but it is what it is. That said we're also taught if it catches fire in a tunnel to drive it out. Yeah, ok then...??
MegaSteve
Tour Winner
I think you are missing the point that the move to 'smart' motorways is making them a lot less safe than they already are...
A step, therefore, in the wrong direction... IMHO...
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
I'd argue it's not the smart motorways that have made them less safe
It's a combination of increased driver numbers meaning more accidents
A decrease in drivers skill levels
A lax attuide to speeding
The motorways would work perfectly fine if people did
How often do you see it.. 800 yards lane closure .. people form a nice queue to get over ... Then you get idiots bombing down until the last second
MegaSteve
Tour Winner
There's the thing... Life ain't like that... If it was we'd all be scratch golfers...
If we never dropped owt we wouldn't have the need for safety boots in the workplace...
If it don't fit the end user it's not likely to be safe...
Human nature won't change so pointless to expect it to...
USER1999
Grand Slam Winner
Been brought up before, but why does anyone pull over with 800 yards to go. Everyone should go up to the point at which their lanes closes. What you describe above would be impossible.
No one is right on this. All lanes should be used til they close, and in cueing traffic, no one should be driving in a lane that will close, at an unsuitable speed.
funkycoldmedina
Newbie
Do they work in other countries? I have a vague recollection of them being used for years in Germany.
Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
Yup, if only people used the motorways correctly...
https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/driving-advice/zip-merging/
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
I think the biggest issue in driving on a types of road is a lack of awareness.
What's your first thought when you see a red X on a motorway..?
What's your first thought when you see a red X on a motorway..?
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
Yup, if only people used the motorways correctly...
https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/driving-advice/zip-merging/
Lots of the word "could" used there
Expected something more black and white from your background.
