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Doing what every responsible Union should do - fight for the wages, rights and working conditions of their members and with the rail unions - the safety of passengers - and if the members want to strike then that is what the Union will likely look to do. If the members didn't, then the Union wouldn't as the law would not allow it.

But hey - that's possibly a bit too political - as is criticism of the RMT to which it is simply an alternative POV. If it is over the line then please mods just delete it.
 
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You get 20 miles north of Newcastle and it’s mainly single carriageway all the way to the border barring a few odd miles of dual carriageway. Shocking.

From the south .....stay on the A1 until you get to Newcastle then turn left onto the A696 towards Jedburgh/Ponteland. After about 28-30 miles, you join the A68.
This is a lovely road and it's empty and the Woolen Mill in Jedburgh has a lovely cafe and a huge selection of whiskys

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From the south .....stay on the A1 until you get to Newcastle then turn left onto the A696 towards Jedburgh/Ponteland. After about 28-30 miles, you join the A68.
This is a lovely road and it's empty and the Woolen Mill in Jedburgh has a lovely cafe and a huge selection of whiskys

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Yeah it’s a nice run but I’m at work not on a driving holiday ?
 

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Doing what every responsible Union should do - fight for the wages, rights and working conditions of their members and with the rail unions - the safety of passengers - and if the members want to strike then that is what the Union will likely look to do. If the members didn't, then the Union wouldn't as the law would not allow it.

But hey - that's possibly a bit too political - as is criticism of the RMT to which it is simply an alternative POV. If it is over the line then please mods just delete it.
I've not looked into it much so I could be wrong - but aren't they partly trying to fight the fact the less staff are required due to technology and more automation in tube stations? I know people don't want to lose their jobs, but at the same time you can't really fight progress can you?
 

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I've not looked into it much so I could be wrong - but aren't they partly trying to fight the fact the less staff are required due to technology and more automation in tube stations? I know people don't want to lose their jobs, but at the same time you can't really fight progress can you?

the problem with the job cuts is laws and how they have been done

a few years ago now fit for the future stations cut the stations on LU to the bear bones.. thats why so many stations are closed now.. for example one of ours was closed this morning because just 1 person was missing (leave) and they didnt have enough staff to legally open (section 12 stations. deep level tube they need certain numbers to open under law after the kings cross fire)

there are stations in the open sections with the gates open and no staff due to these cuts

they mucked up how they did it aswell. they offered people location or grade so a lot took grade as couldnt afford a paycut so for example a supervisor from holborn (of 15 years) was moved to dagenham then wasnt shown around the track to be able to help in a failure so points failure there.. he cant secure them by law

they now want to cut 600 further jobs.. from where exactly? there just isnt any fat to trim anymore
 
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the problem with the job cuts is laws and how they have been done

a few years ago now fit for the future stations cut the stations on LU to the bear bones.. thats why so many stations are closed now.. for example one of ours was closed this morning because just 1 person was missing (leave) and they didnt have enough staff to legally open (section 12 stations. deep level tube they need certain numbers to open under law after the kings cross fire)

their are stations in the open sections with the gates open and no staff due to these cuts

they mucked up how they did it aswell. they offered people location or grade so a lot took grade as couldnt afford a paycut so for example a supervisor from holborn (of 15 years) was moved to dagenham then wasnt shown around the track to be able to help in a failure so points failure there.. he cant secure them by law

they now want to cut 600 further jobs.. from where exactly? there just isnt any fat to trim anymore
Fair play. I don't know why they still try it on given that they know now everybody will strike at the drop of a hat. :LOL:
 

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Fair play. I don't know why they still try it on given that they know now everybody will strike at the drop of a hat. :LOL:

Well you know my view on the RMT and how since Bob passed they have become a union that strikes first option rather than picking battles. I think its made them weaker not stronger tbh.

You are right that they will strike however the company is not blameless. They have a history of not listening to the unions and the unions will have a strike and then suddenly talks will happen

both of them need head banging together. a reasoned discussion and go from there

but then this the same TFL that brought in a guy to access the company about a decade ago as to where they could make cuts .. he studied the entire company for 6 months... reported back right I can make the savings you want with not one cut to front line staff... oh really? how.. well all these middle managers that you have you dont need you can merge them.. cut some etc..

he was paid off to leave the company.
 

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Well you know my view on the RMT and how since Bob passed they have become a union that strikes first option rather than picking battles. I think its made them weaker not stronger tbh.

You are right that they will strike however the company is not blameless. They have a history of not listening to the unions and the unions will have a strike and then suddenly talks will happen

both of them need head banging together. a reasoned discussion and go from there

but then this the same TFL that brought in a guy to access the company about a decade ago as to where they could make cuts .. he studied the entire company for 6 months... reported back right I can make the savings you want with not one cut to front line staff... oh really? how.. well all these middle managers that you have you dont need you can merge them.. cut some etc..

he was paid off to leave the company.

Have you seen ''The Company Men''?
 

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Doing what every responsible Union should do - fight for the wages, rights and working conditions of their members and with the rail unions - the safety of passengers - and if the members want to strike then that is what the Union will likely look to do. If the members didn't, then the Union wouldn't as the law would not allow it.

But hey - that's possibly a bit too political - as is criticism of the RMT to which it is simply an alternative POV. If it is over the line then please mods just delete it.

you make it political if you want. It was my random irritation. Maybe it should your "things that gladden the heart". But major disruption to people's lives and the economy, and Glastenbury etc etc are things that annoy me when initiated by militant unions
 

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They keep advertising this LIV golf thing as being in London. It's not in London it's in bloody Hemel Hempstead!
Always amused that the people who want to big up Centurion say it's in St Albans - sounds much more salubrious than Hemel. Bit like how they try and pretend The Grove isn't in Watford.
 

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I've not looked into it much so I could be wrong - but aren't they partly trying to fight the fact the less staff are required due to technology and more automation in tube stations? I know people don't want to lose their jobs, but at the same time you can't really fight progress can you?

prime example this morning

incident on a station.. takes longer than before for staff to be able to assist so less of them.. meaning train is delayed by 5 mins for example instead of 2 .. then BTP are requested but due to police cuts they take longer to get there

hell the other day we had something with a suspected knife on a train someone had to flag down a met officer driving past to get assistance
 

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prime example this morning

incident on a station.. takes longer than before for staff to be able to assist so less of them.. meaning train is delayed by 5 mins for example instead of 2 .. then BTP are requested but due to police cuts they take longer to get there

hell the other day we had something with a suspected knife on a train someone had to flag down a met officer driving past to get assistance

I thnk tubes are overrated... they should rip them off completely and convert the tunnels into boris bike superhighways or hyperloop. no tube, no strike. :)

Since pandemic, i try and avoid london. If i get in, then i try and try and walk along the river or somethin (if within 30 mins from waterloo).
 

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The horrible little bastid kids on any of the Kinder adverts.
They just grab whatever treat is being offered to them and start scoffing it.
No "please" or "thank you".
If they were my kids, the treat would immediately be taken back off them and their little buttock cheeks would be red raw.....????
 

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The horrible little bastid kids on any of the Kinder adverts.
They just grab whatever treat is being offered to them and start scoffing it.
No "please" or "thank you".
If they were my kids, the treat would immediately be taken back off them and their little buttock cheeks would be red raw.....????
You are obviously feeling better!
 
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