Random Irritations

[Deleted member 16999]

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Imo there are some things that shouldn’t ever be joked about and imo what Carr joked about was one of those subject

Some things just aren’t funny in any situation

 

[Orikoru]

Imo there are some things that shouldn’t ever be joked about and imo what Carr joked about was one of those subject

Some things just aren’t funny in any situation

But there was an audience of people who obviously disagreed as they did find it funny. ??‍ I don't think it's particularly funny, but his supporters do and that's what they turn up for. Perhaps the more sensible idea would have been to simply cut that joke out of the Netflix broadcast. Assuming that was the worst joke of the show, I don't know, I haven't watched it yet. (I'd better hurry up before they cancel it!)

 

[Deleted member 16999]

But there was an audience of people who obviously disagreed as they did find it funny. ??‍ I don't think it's particularly funny, but his supporters do and that's what they turn up for. Perhaps the more sensible idea would have been to simply cut that joke out of the Netflix broadcast. Assuming that was the worst joke of the show, I don't know, I haven't watched it yet. (I'd better hurry up before they cancel it!)

I like Jimmy Carr, as others have said, you can guarantee if you watch any of his live shows he will shock and possibly offend someone.

However, I believe the Holocaust is one area there is nothing funny about, others disagree and say there should be nothing off limits in comedy, but that’s not reality in the modern world.

Can we honestly believe that if someone was to make a joke about 9/11 or Hillsborough or Munich etc those upset and offended would be told to lighten up.

 

[Mudball]

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I havent seen the show.. but reading this makes me wonder why this whole thing kicked off. Genocide is not a joke. As a white male, it might sound 'funny' when it is happening to another group of non-white demographics. As pauldj said, woud this be 'funny' if this was about 9/11, Hillsborogh, Jimmy Savile etc. Very fine line these days.

Again, I like Carr and he can be edgy. but looks like he may have overstepped the mark here. that is my 2c.. other opinions are available

 

[Orikoru]

I like Jimmy Carr, as others have said, you can guarantee if you watch any of his live shows he will shock and possibly offend someone.

However, I believe the Holocaust is one area there is nothing funny about, others disagree and say there should be nothing off limits in comedy, but that’s not reality in the modern world.

Can we honestly believe that if someone was to make a joke about 9/11 or Hillsborough or Munich etc those upset and offended would be told to lighten up.

Again it depends on the audience. I've seen clips from the roast of Pete Davidson where they made jokes about his dad who I believe died at 9/11, but he just took it. (Actually I think that was Jimmy Carr as well come to think of it...) But I repeat, I think Carr has the right to joke about whatever he wants at his shows, but perhaps this one should have been cut from the edit so as not to go into the public domain.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Again it depends on the audience. I've seen clips from the roast of Pete Davidson where they made jokes about his dad who I believe died at 9/11, but he just took it. (Actually I think that was Jimmy Carr as well come to think of it...) But I repeat, I think Carr has the right to joke about whatever he wants at his shows, but perhaps this one should have been cut from the edit so as not to go into the public domain.

I’d prefer we didn’t allow comedians or anyone to say what they like behind close doors, isn’t that risking hate speech to rise/increase, if it’s not for for the public domain, then it’s best not said.

 

[ColchesterFC]

Imo there are some things that shouldn’t ever be joked about and imo what Carr joked about was one of those subject

Some things just aren’t funny in any situation

It's the start of a very slippery slope if you start banning topics in comedy and who gets to decide what can and can't be joked about?

 

[Orikoru]

I’d prefer we didn’t allow comedians or anyone to say what they like behind close doors, isn’t that risking hate speech to rise/increase, if it’s not for for the public domain, then it’s best not said.

I don't think so. Comedians have always made these kind of jokes, but there was no public outcry because you didn't have YouTube or Netflix beaming it into everyone's living room.

 

[Jimaroid]

Random irritations becoming a topic again.

 

[GB72]

For someone who grew up in the 70s and saw these very same defenses being trotted out in support of the likes of Bernard Manning etc (surely we are not saying that racist comedy should still be allowed) it is somewhat concerning that the idea that nothing is taboo for comedy still exists.

 

[fundy]

Someone who pays at least 6 figures for their car, orders in a garish colour and then cant drive for toffee, yes i mean you in the purple rolls royce!!!!!

 

[Orikoru]

For someone who grew up in the 70s and saw these very same defenses being trotted out in support of the likes of Bernard Manning etc (surely we are not saying that racist comedy should still be allowed) it is somewhat concerning that the idea that nothing is taboo for comedy still exists.

Context is important though, David Baddiel even posted an example of an acceptable holocaust joke when he was criticising Carr's one. It's about who the target is and the spirit in which it was intended. (Admittedly Carr's joke loses on both counts here - but I am talking generally.)

 

[drdel]

Prompted by Dando's post in the 'Laughter...' post #4595

People who let pets into bedrooms, on kitchen furniture etc. Do they know how dogs and cats clean their backsides and cover their 'deposits ' while outside?

 

[Deleted member 29109]

Prompted by Dando's post in the 'Laughter...' post #4595

People who let pets into bedrooms, on kitchen furniture etc. Do they know how dogs and cats clean their backsides and cover their 'deposits ' while outside?

Yep. And I’d still consider the dog to be cleaner than both kids.

 

[Rooter]

Peasants not loving my new car.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

It's the start of a very slippery slope if you start banning topics in comedy and who gets to decide what can and can't be joked about?

Society will decide what is and isn’t acceptable and I’d suggest most comedians know where the line is, but then don’t moan or complain if it does offend someone and your career goes down the toilet. ie Jim Davidson and the like.

It will also change over time and the best Comedians will adapt.

We live by rules and what is and isn’t acceptable, why should comedians be any different?

 

[ColchesterFC]

Society will decide what is and isn’t acceptable and I’d suggest most comedians know where the line is, but then don’t moan or complain if it does offend someone and your career goes down the toilet. ie Jim Davidson and the like.

It will also change over time and the best Comedians will adapt.

We live by rules and what is and isn’t acceptable, why should comedians be any different?

How does society decide? There aren't any polls or referendums being carried out on what should happen. At the minute it seems that it's whoever shouts loudest and longest on social media trying to get people they don't like cancelled.

If you start banning certain things from being joked about then where do you draw the line? My cousin is profoundly deaf so should I be able to ban people from joking about deaf people? If someone is a Royalist should they be able to get jokes about the Queen and the Royal family banned? And do you stop at comedy or does this cross into other areas of life? If a devout Christian is offended by gay marriage why can't they get banned? If I'm offended by Strictly Come Dancing can I get that banned?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

How does society decide? There aren't any polls or referendums being carried out on what should happen. At the minute it seems that it's whoever shouts loudest and longest on social media trying to get people they don't like cancelled.

If you start banning certain things from being joked about then where do you draw the line? My cousin is profoundly deaf so should I be able to ban people from joking about deaf people? If someone is a Royalist should they be able to get jokes about the Queen and the Royal family banned? And do you stop at comedy or does this cross into other areas of life? If a devout Christian is offended by gay marriage why can't they get banned? If I'm offended by Strictly Come Dancing can I get that banned?

Aren’t certain subject etc already banned from television for example?

Don’t we already have levels in society that make these judgments etc

For example if someone made a joke about holocaust on live at the Apollo for example there is no doubt they would be fired etc

 

[Deleted member 16999]

How does society decide? There aren't any polls or referendums being carried out on what should happen. At the minute it seems that it's whoever shouts loudest and longest on social media trying to get people they don't like cancelled.

If you start banning certain things from being joked about then where do you draw the line? My cousin is profoundly deaf so should I be able to ban people from joking about deaf people? If someone is a Royalist should they be able to get jokes about the Queen and the Royal family banned? And do you stop at comedy or does this cross into other areas of life? If a devout Christian is offended by gay marriage why can't they get banned? If I'm offended by Strictly Come Dancing can I get that banned?

Why isn’t the Black and White Minstrel Show on TV or Love Thy Neighbour?

Bernard Manning, Jim Davidson, Lee Hurst, what happened to them?

When was the last time you heard a white comedian use the N word in a joke?

All unacceptable in todays society, someone has obviously made a decision as to what is socially unacceptable.

Were was social media 50yrs or more back when behaviours and such were changing.

It happens in a civilised society all the time. Society evolves.

Why was the title of a thread in Lounge changed yesterday? Because of the racist connotations, did we have a poll on it or did forum members resign en masse due to censorship or did we just accept it?