Poults and RC qualification

Hacker Khan said:
I'd rather base it on current form than some misty eyed reminiscing over what he did 4 years ago in the Ryder Cup.
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Well as the RC is 12 months away maybe it's best to judge on the form then as opposed to now and based on one tournament a year before the comp actually happens

Europe have done pretty well with selected players who have performed well in previous RC - Faldo , Monty , Seve even Harrington

Poulter has always provided moments no matter how short in RC - you can dismiss his part in the last one - his teammates and captain certainly didn't ( unbeaten in two out of three matches he played in )
 
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As Butch was saying its becoming more and more a young man's game. The postman is late. Time to encourage Fitzpatrick. Even Andy Sullivan is 10 years younger and has won 3 times this year.

I think wildcards will be at a premium this year as Westwood will be guaranteed one by his mate Clarke so that is one less from the off.
 
Hobbit said:
He needs to improve and, ideally, qualify by right not by his usual method of Captain's pick.
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Yeah certainly needs to sharpen up his short game - that's where he is losing his game at the moment and it's normally his strong point but have no doubt he will be in the shake up for places.
 
Hey Phil.. Why don't you ask Good ol' Poults round for Sunday Lunch Sometime??

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It may end up being a case that Poulter will get a place for his experience. Look at the team from 2 years ago and look at how many of them are playing well. Dubuisson and Donaldson arent doing anything, neither is McDowell, neither is Westwood, neither is Bjorn. (may get a WC as already highlighted)

Garcia and Kaymer arent exactly pulling up trees either.

So that leaves Rory, Stenson and Rose.
 
Tongo said:
It may end up being a case that Poulter will get a place for his experience. Look at the team from 2 years ago and look at how many of them are playing well. Dubuisson and Donaldson arent doing anything, neither is McDowell, neither is Westwood, neither is Bjorn. (may get a WC as already highlighted)

Garcia and Kaymer arent exactly pulling up trees either.

So that leaves Rory, Stenson and Rose.
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Quite a few of the Europeans will really need to Up their game before the Ryder cup.
 
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Liverpoolphil said:
Well as the RC is 12 months away maybe it's best to judge on the form then as opposed to now and based on one tournament a year before the comp actually happens

Europe have done pretty well with selected players who have performed well in previous RC - Faldo , Monty , Seve even Harrington

Poulter has always provided moments no matter how short in RC - you can dismiss his part in the last one - his teammates and captain certainly didn't ( unbeaten in two out of three matches he played in )
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Unbeaten in 2 out of the 3 matches, you certainly know his to spin a story in your favour.

Another way of looking at it was that he got stuffed in his 1st match and ruined the confidence of his playing partner so he didn't pay again till the singles. He then got a half whilst being carried round by Rory who, in the post match interview, made a joke that it was a good job he chipped in as he needed to contribute something. Cue Poulter looking very embarrassed as they both knew the truth hurt.

Then he got a half in the singles against a man who was so traumatised and lacking in confidence after he mishit the 1st tee shot of the day I suspect you and a few other decent golfers on this board would have got at least a half against him. IMHO of course. ;)

So one point from a possible 3, despite playing one game with the best player in the world at the time.

Yes if he has played his way in when the team is announced then fair play, he deserves to go. But please not a captains pick.
 
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Hacker Khan said:
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Unbeaten in 2 out of the 3 matches, you certainly know his to spin a story in your favour.

Another way of looking at it was that he got stuffed in his 1st match and ruined the confidence of his playing partner so he didn't pay again till the singles. He then got a half whilst being carried round by Rory who, in the post match interview, made a joke that it was a good job he chipped in as he needed to contribute something. Cue Poulter looking very embarrassed as they both knew the truth hurt.

Then he got a half in the singles against a man who was so traumatised and lacking in confidence after he mishit the 1st tee shot of the day I suspect you and a few other decent golfers on this board would have got at least a half against him. IMHO of course. ;)

So one point from a possible 3, despite playing one game with the best player in the world at the time.

Yes if he has played his way in when the team is announced then fair play, he deserves to go. But please not a captains pick.
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So it was Poulters fault that Gallacher had a mare as well ?! So nothing to do with the player swinging the club ?

And then he only gets a half because of the other player ?

Poulter has played in 5 RC - his first he played a bit part role in the win , the second he was the stand out player , the third the stand out player , the fourth the standout player - he through his own play raised the standard to judge him by - the game with McIlory was flat - nothing was happening and they were losing ( do I need to emphasise the "THEY" ) and neither player could get anything going - until the chip in which as the captain says was one of those events that happens in the RC that either keeps the momentum going or swings it back into the favour

He still played his part - if the captain picks him then it will be because the captain feels he will do a job for the team and so far the captains don't seem to get too much wrong

Over the last 20 years Europe have selected players very well and a number of times a good few players who many thought were past it - Monty , Faldo , Seve etc but they all played their part - sum of all parts to make a team - something that Europe has it spot on and something that Poulter gets ( amongst others )

Some seem to have this negative toward Poulter regardless of what he does - it appears a desperation for him to fail - I know he walks that fine line between arrogance and confidence and certainly seem him act a prize clown enough times over the years - but I also know that when it comes to the Ryder Cup he is one player that will always been in the thoughts of a Ryder Cup captain and will always be a player that the US wouldn't want to play against. Yes he had a below standard RC last time out ( you would think we had lost ) but he still played his role and will do again In future now the Masters is out of the way.

He is exactly the type of person Europe need and want in the side at the next RC in the US
 
Liverpoolphil said:
So it was Poulters fault that Gallacher had a mare as well ?! So nothing to do with the player swinging the club ?

He is exactly the type of person Europe need and want in the side at the next RC in the US
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On the one hand you say how he motivates players, but on the other don't accept he doesn't motivate. He kick started the resurgence but it still needed the other players to respond. I really think you're over egging his contribution.

And he is exactly the type of player Europe need IF he's on form. He was rubbish in the run up to the last one and his form has continued since. A good Poulter is an asset but he's far from that. Tee to green he's as good as ever but his short game is shocking, including a number of shanks.

Edit; putting Gallacher with an out of form Poulter was a poor decision.
 
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Hobbit said:
On the one hand you say how he motivates players, but on the other don't accept he doesn't motivate. He kick started the resurgence but it still needed the other players to respond. I really think you're over egging his contribution.

And he is exactly the type of player Europe need IF he's on form. He was rubbish in the run up to the last one and his form has continued since. A good Poulter is an asset but he's far from that. Tee to green he's as good as ever but his short game is shocking, including a number of shanks.
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When it comes to the pairings some players just don't gel - the Poulter Gallacher pairing was the exact example of that - just didnt gel or bounce of each other - that's not Poulters fault or Gallachers fault - he still played his part and still got a point on the board - it was a poor pairing choice with Poulter needing someone a bit more "excitable".

Yes he does need to sort out his short game and expect him to work on that a hell of a lot more this winter/spring without the distractions of the Masters

But I expect to see him in the line up and again getting points on the board - even if a captains pick is needed
 
Liverpoolphil said:
When it comes to the pairings some players just don't gel - the Poulter Gallacher pairing was the exact example of that - just didnt gel or bounce of each other - that's not Poulters fault or Gallachers fault - he still played his part and still got a point on the board

Yes he does need to sort out his short game and expect him to work on that a hell of a lot more this winter/spring without the distractions of the Masters

But I expect to see him in the line up and again getting points on the board - even if a captains pick is needed
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Poulter/Gallacher was a lousy pairing. An out of form player with a rookie. What protection was there for Gallacher? I thought it at the time, and it was proven.

I'd like to see him there but absolutely only if he proves himself. If it needs to be a Captain's pick, fine providing his form has improved significantly.
 
Hobbit said:
Poulter/Gallacher was a lousy pairing. An out of form player with a rookie. What protection was there for Gallacher? I thought it at the time, and it was proven.

I'd like to see him there but absolutely only if he proves himself. If it needs to be a Captain's pick, fine providing his form has improved significantly.
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I can see the understanding behind the pairing but the personalities just didn't seem the right mix even without the form issues

The one thing about Poulter you can always guarantee is his mental strength - he will be doing everything to play next year
 
I love Poulters fighting spirit and he certainly loves a dog fight and in form you would love him in your team.

A years a long way away so who knows,i don't think Clarke will pick him on past glories and I hope he wont pick Westwood because hes a good mate.

We need players that on in form or showing signs that they can win matches.

I hope they both qualify by right.
 
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