Playing through... Was I in the wrong?

[Allanxyz]

Joined a new club a week and a half ago and already in trouble with a couple of members... Wounding what your thoughts are...

I was playing on my own early this morning and came up behind a three ball on the par three 9th, waited on the 10th and 11th tee,.. No real sign of being let through (nobody ahead or behind us)

To add a bit of context I played last week, also early morning on a weekday, and came behind a three ball on the 14th... They didn't offer to let me play through and I was held up for the rest of the round (nobody was ahead or behind us on the course).

I couldn't say if they were the same three ball but one of the guys was definitely the same... Given this and how I'd waited last time I didn't fancy playing the last 7 holes behind them... So as my drive on 11 bounced OB, towards the path for the twelfth, I decided to skip to the 12.. They were around the green on the 11th, one was in the bunker so thought I'd have enough time to get out of their way on the 12th. Unfortunately they had to wait a minute or two on the 12th tee.

anyway, as I made my way down the 13th one came over and had a go at me in a far from friendly tone, he basically said it was common curtesy to ask before playing though... I said sorry and I thought I'd be out of the way. He didn't seem in the mood to converse and just said the same thing about common courtesy.

Ok, he could have been far more friendly about it, but was I in the wrong regarding playing through?

 

[la_lucha]

I've no idea what etiquette is right and wrong in Germany, but imho they should've offered to let you through and I think you probably did the right thing thinking you would be out of their way before they reached the tee.

 

[Jay1]

Tricky one. I've been in the situation a few times as a single with a belligerent group ahead that can't seem to see you behind them. Cutting ahead is sometimes the only option to avid a frustratingly slow run of hole.

On this occasion though I think you've cut in a bit close to them. If they were on the 11th green (or very close to it) when you got to the 12th tee, probably should have either asked if they mind you skipping ahead of them, or jump further up the 12th or to the 13th, so well out of their way.

As for the common courtesy bit, I'd say it's common courtesy to let faster players through. You shouldn't have to ask to be let through, although to jump directly in front and then making them wait (even if only briefly) was probably bound to wind someone up.

 

[Allanxyz]

I've no idea what etiquette is right and wrong in Germany, but imho they should've offered to let you through and I think you probably did the right thing thinking you would be out of their way before they reached the tee.

Sorry, just updated my profile...back in the UK now...

 

[guest100718]

They shouldhave let you through but some think that a single has no standing, but if you were going to cut in then make sure its well ahead and not going to hold anyone up.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

So you let yourself through and held them up on the next tee ?

Tricky one

Did you ask if it was ok to go through ?

Yes they should have let you through that there is no doubt but would be a bit miffed if you cut past without asking then held them up

 

[jimbob.someroo]

Knowing the exact holes you were on and the attitude of some of the more senior boys at the club (to be polite) I would say to sod 'em and carry on.

Just looked at the start sheet to see who it was and whatever they say, they wouldn't have let you through. Generally it's a good club and most of the members have a brain about them, but I've seen members of that group sit in the bar and boast about not letting people through. Cos they are arses.

Sod em


EDIT - also, maybe just skip to playing your second down 12, or missing out 11 altogether

 

[Alex1975]

You were technically in the wrong but I would not have cared if I was in the 3 ball, I would rather a 1 ball was in front of me than behind... but I would have long let you through anyways.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Which course have you joined? I'm with others and if you are going to cut in front, make sure you get far enough ahead so if you get held up you aren't then holding them up as a result. No excuse to be spoken to in that tone though

 

[Allanxyz]

Thanks for all the comments...ok, so looks like I should have cut back in a little further in front, I would guess that pretty much as got to my ball they were ready to tee off, so there wasn't a long wait, but this is probably what annoyed them.

@Jimbob, cheers... So far my experience has been really positive, apart from me not playing the best golf! I'll put it down to experience and not let it bother me. Playing tomorrow evening at around 5pm if you fancy a knock.

 

[jimbob.someroo]

@Jimbob, cheers... So far my experience has been really positive, apart from me not playing the best golf! I'll put it down to experience and not let it bother me. Playing tomorrow evening at around 5pm if you fancy a knock.

Can't get down until 7 ish most nights with work. Nursing a softy sore shoulder at the moment so probably not going to play until the weekend but may head down for a putt tomorrow night and catch you for a drink in the bar?

 

[Wayman]

Club I'm a member of says you can start on any hole on the course as long a there is a previous full hole clear. Maybe you should of went to 13th and out the way

Personally would of asked you to join in or go straight through don't like holding people up. But each I person is different

 

[Junior]

I'd have thought they would have asked you to join them and up a 4 ?

Yeah, you may have been in the wrong for skipping in front and holdin gthem up for a couple of minutes, but imo, them not offering to let you thorugh or join them is more of an issue. Dont lose sleep over it mate !

 

[Foxholer]

Slightly tricky, but with Jimbob's comments, looks like you did the right thing.

The question you could have asked was why there was such a gap in front of them in the first place!

 

[Allanxyz]

Can't get down until 7 ish most nights with work. Nursing a softy sore shoulder at the moment so probably not going to play until the weekend but may head down for a putt tomorrow night and catch you for a drink in the bar?

no worries at all, I'll keep an eye for you after my round.

 

[Fish]

Just looked at the start sheet to see who it was and whatever they say, they wouldn't have let you through. Generally it's a good club and most of the members have a brain about them, but I've seen members of that group sit in the bar and boast about not letting people through.

If that's the case and it is common knowledge, then a letter/s or even a petition should be presented to the President or/and General Manager as its situations and stories like this which discourages people from joining or revisiting clubs when a course gets a reputation due to the actions and attitudes of some of its members whilst on it!

If he'd walked over to me and gave abuse, they'd be finishing as a 2-all :angry:

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

When I miss out some holes and cut across to a tee and a group are on the previous green or approaching it, I'll always ask if it's OK for me to play 'through'. But I also tell them that I'll stand to the side (of the fairway or green if par 3) as soon as they are ready to tee off. As soon as they have tee'd off I'll play on. If it's a par 3 and I've stood to side of green, I'll usually just pick up and move on to the next tee - so immediately a hole ahead of them.

 

[3565]

Was you on a timescale? If I find myself in that situation I just take my time and play a few more shots, chips or putts if no one is behind you. Obviously it's different if there is, so I'd then make sure I keep UP (literally) with the group in front........

 

[pokerjoke]

If that's the case and it is common knowledge, then a letter/s or even a petition should be presented to the President or/and General Manager as its situations and stories like this which discourages people from joining or revisiting clubs when a course gets a reputation due to the actions and attitudes of some of its members whilst on it!

If he'd walked over to me and gave abuse, they'd be finishing as a 2-all :angry:

Probably the biggest contradiction ever.

First of all you say write a letter.
Then you say you would have tried to knock one out.
Funny that I never had you down as an aggressive type

 

[Fish]

Probably the biggest contradiction ever.

First of all you say write a letter.
Then you say you would have tried to knock one out.
Funny that I never had you down as an aggressive type

Its not a contraction, what I advise others to do and how I may react to a known 'arse' as James describes them as and who was abusive or confrontational, is 2 different things.

People like that are nothing short of bullies which I detest and their own medicine usually puts them in check, rightly or wrongly.