Olympics - Paris 2024

[Bunkermagnet]

Isn't the fact that the Boxing Federations have banned them from Women's events sufficient ..?

I think it's time a third category for all sport is created, so we can have gold medal Olympic and World champion men, women and whatever name they want to give them.

 

[AmandaJR]

What time is it on?
What station?

Now. Set and a break down :-( Eurosport...might be on BBC red button too.

 

[chrisd]

The English guy sanctioned her/his ok to fight on the grounds that their passport says she is female. I renewed my passport a short while ago and don't remember having to prove any of the entries on it.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Aren’t they both biological women , born women and been women all their lives but have issues with elevated testosterone and XY chromosomes as opposed to XX ?

In athletics I believe Semenya was eventually only allowed to run with drugs to reduced the testosterone levels ?

 

[Morfeen75]

Is it though, that is what I am not clear about. Is it a woman with abnormal testosterone levels or is she transgender. I am not clear.

Yes. A transgender is not a woman. It's a man with abnormal testosterone levels buddy

 

[AmandaJR]

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Well that’s the last time we see Murray , legend of British sports and tennis

 

[Slime]

I'm going to miss watching him, so much passion.
One of our greatest ever sportsmen and our greatest ever tennis player, that's for sure.

 

[D-S]

The English guy sanctioned her/his ok to fight on the grounds that their passport says she is female. I renewed my passport a short while ago and don't remember having to prove any of the entries on it.

When you apply initially for your passport (not renew it) don’t you have to send or supply details of your birth certificate?

 

[Pin-seeker]

Touch of class from the USA tennis players at the end of the match

 

[Arthur Wedge]

The medley final tomorrow is going to be a blockbuster and Scott got a great chance in it

 

[chrisd]

When you apply initially for your passport (not renew it) don’t you have to send or supply details of your birth certificate?

I don't remember in England as I've had mine for over 50 years, but other countries may have different ways. I can't believe that a passport should be proof of gender

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Just got in after being out earlier, to find my wife actually very upset about what happened to the Italian girl in the boxing…and furious that the IOC sanctioned the entry of Khelif in the women’s boxing. That upset is notwithstanding and not lessened by her knowing (if it is the case) that Khelif is not one who has transitioned to female from male.

 

[D-S]

I don't remember in England as I've had mine for over 50 years, but other countries may have different ways. I can't believe that a passport should be proof of gender

Do you have another suggestion? if you accept that your passport reflects your birth certificate gender.

 

[D-S]

Beth Shriever looks really useful in the BMX racing, bonkers sport.

 

[Ye Olde Boomer]

My passport has expired.
I'm not going anywhere, I'm afraid.

Flying has become too stressful.
It was much more pleasant 60 years ago than it is now.

The domestic ones are worse that the Trans-Atlantic,
but they're all pretty bad these days.

 

[chrisd]

Do you have another suggestion? if you accept that your passport reflects your birth certificate gender.

I don't accept it ! Maybe have a separate contest for anyone who has altered their gender?

 

[RichA]

Just got in after being out earlier, to find my wife actually very upset about what happened to the Italian girl in the boxing…and furious that the IOC sanctioned the entry of Khelif in the women’s boxing. That upset is notwithstanding and not lessened by her knowing (if it is the case) that Khelif is not one who has transitioned to female from male.

Maybe remind her that it's a "sport" where one of the principle objectives is to inflict a brain injury on your opponent. The Italian will have battered many opponents less naturally gifted than herself on her way to the Olympics.
It's not Khelif's fault she's different. There's no suggestion so far that her "condition" isn't natural.

 

[D-S]

I don't accept it ! Maybe have a separate contest for anyone who has altered their gender?

But if it reflects your birth gender then you haven’t altered it.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Maybe remind her that it's a "sport" where one of the principle objectives is to inflict a brain injury on your opponent. The Italian will have battered many opponents less naturally gifted than herself on her way to the Olympics.
It's not Khelif's fault she's different. There's no suggestion so far that her "condition" isn't natural.

This is true - except the sport does at least try to have fighters competing on a level playing field. And at an amateur level this is surely especially important.