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SPOTY is a BBC show and I expect them to heavily push all Olympians as it is pretty much the only sport they show, Wimbledon and footie highlights apart. They will do their best to "guide" the viewer.

We all know that the personality aspect long disappeared so for me it is between Andy Murray, Jason Kenny and Mo Farah, although Mo will suffer from the fact that only insomniacs will have seen him race but Murray and Kenny won at peak time. Laura Trott has the best chance from the ladies. I really like Nicola Adams, bundles of personality as well, but she only had to win one bout to win a bronze, two to guarantee a silver. What is that about?

My vote goes to Kenny, he looked a class apart, as did Trott to be fair, and he had to cope with immense pressure in that last final.

Team of the year, Leicester City. No matter what anyone else does what they did was exceptional.

Overseas. Really? Bolt wins that award by as big a margin as his 200m win.

Quote of the year. Spear Chucker :thup:. Anyone but Hamilton for me.
 

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To be honest I'd be happy for any of the Olympians who got gold win it really. I've got a bit of a soft spot for Jade Jones as well, tremendous achievement retaining her title in a sport where it is basically you against someone else, no horses, bikes, cars, rackets, clubs needed.
 

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HK - Not that televisual though. I heard someone describe it as two women kicking each other this morning. One for the participants rather than the viewer which makes it difficult to build up a following. I'm not decrying her achievement, it's just the reality of her chosen sport.

I agree with your last comment with regards to anything horse or motor related. For the rest the equipment is pretty much available equally across the board, tennis, golf, archery etc. A possible case can be made for cyclists where money does get you better equipment although most of the gear looks pretty spot on.
 

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HK - Not that televisual though. I heard someone describe it as two women kicking each other this morning. One for the participants rather than the viewer which makes it difficult to build up a following. I'm not decrying her achievement, it's just the reality of her chosen sport.

I agree with your last comment with regards to anything horse or motor related. For the rest the equipment is pretty much available equally across the board, tennis, golf, archery etc. A possible case can be made for cyclists where money does get you better equipment although most of the gear looks pretty spot on.

I'd argue to a certain extent regarding the televisual element as I know nothing about Taekwondo but from watching a couple of bouts and with a bit of explanation from the commentators I got into it within 10 minutes. And then I was engaged in the competition, the rounds came thick and fast and it griped me. Something that I think golf can learn from it it wants to stay in the Olympics.

As for the other point I was not really trying to say that equipment gives you and advantage (although with horse and car related sports it obviously does to a massive extent, to the point that F1 is usually a competition between 2 people at most every year). But just that as there are no additional props needed, only your skill and body, I quite like it.
 
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Great result for the ladies, but unless they were 5001-1shots I can't see how they win team of the year....

Not sure how bookies odds determine an award ?

They just created history for GB on a world stage - wins it for me :whoo:
 

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Be issue for me, the bigger the upset, the bigger the achievement.

As as for world stage. I'd be surprised if less people knew about Leicesters triumph than GB's win 48 hours after the event.

Im not belittling what they've done. It's great. Just giving a counter as to why Leicesters IMO is a more impressive feat.
 
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Tonight's result is something that can and will inspire thousands to either take up the game or return to the game - it's a bunch of hard working ladies not on million pound contracts defying the odds and beating the clear favourites , the same team that had won the two previous Olympics - the impact of the ladies winning the gold will be bigger for the sport than Leicester winning the Prem IMO

Team GB will no doubt win the team of the year but those ladies in this Olympics are for me the Team of the Year
 

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Tonight's result is something that can and will inspire thousands to either take up the game or return to the game - it's a bunch of hard working ladies not on million pound contracts defying the odds and beating the clear favourites , the same team that had won the two previous Olympics - the impact of the ladies winning the gold will be bigger for the sport than Leicester winning the Prem IMO

Team GB will no doubt win the team of the year but those ladies in this Olympics are for me the Team of the Year

So me mentions odds is irrelevant but totally fine for you to try and use them to make a point......


The wages of leciester are totally irrelevant and serve no purpose when making the comparison.
The hockey players faced opponents with similar funding, as themselves. leciester faced opponents with vastly more money to spend.

Whilst I can't claim to have any knowledge of hockey whatsoever and have read full well your knowledge. In 20 years time I'd be confident in guessing which one is most talked about.

Sp the impact it's really gonna have will IMO be totally mute. I don't envisage hoards of school girls running out tomorrow to buy new gear and play.
 
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At least we've got a few genuine options for Team of the year this time😃
 
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Agreed, same for individuals.
Unfortunately I'm cynical when it comes to the individual award I really do believe it's a popularity contest confused by the word personality in the title, don't even think it should be voted on by the Public, it should be done by a panel of respected sportsmen and women, then you could have a public vote for the Nations Favourite Sports Person.
 
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So me mentions odds is irrelevant but totally fine for you to try and use them to make a point......

I think it was quite clear I wasn't on about bookie odds and I'm sure you could clearly see that as well

The wages of leciester are totally irrelevant and serve no purpose when making the comparison.
The hockey players faced opponents with similar funding, as themselves. leciester faced opponents with vastly more money to spend.

Whilst I can't claim to have any knowledge of hockey whatsoever and have read full well your knowledge. In 20 years time I'd be confident in guessing which one is most talked about.

Sp the impact it's really gonna have will IMO be totally mute. I don't envisage hoards of school girls running out tomorrow to buy new gear and play.

You are a football fan - it's quite clear , you have said you have no knowledge of hockey

I'm a fan of both - the Leicester win was great but mainly for Leicester fans but it's done now and onto another season for non Leicester fans the impact will be minimal next to none

The GB ladies winning will impact every single hockey fan regardless of what club they support or play for - that tonight was the peak of 7 years of hard work since they started central contracts - winning the Olympics is the pinnacle in the sport - there is nothing above that and that pinnacle will be celebrated and remembered - there is something called Hockey family and it's something you don't see in football.

The impact of GB winning a bronze was increases in people playing the sport - this will further increase that and hockey will continue to flourish - it's finally starting to gain a spot on the telly schedule that it deserves.

So yes as a football you will praise Leicesters win as higher - me as a hockey and football fan see the result tonight as the bigger achievement
 

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I think it was quite clear I wasn't on about bookie odds and I'm sure you could clearly see that as well



You are a football fan - it's quite clear , you have said you have no knowledge of hockey

I'm a fan of both - the Leicester win was great but mainly for Leicester fans but it's done now and onto another season for non Leicester fans the impact will be minimal next to none

The GB ladies winning will impact every single hockey fan regardless of what club they support or play for - that tonight was the peak of 7 years of hard work since they started central contracts - winning the Olympics is the pinnacle in the sport - there is nothing above that and that pinnacle will be celebrated and remembered - there is something called Hockey family and it's something you don't see in football.

The impact of GB winning a bronze was increases in people playing the sport - this will further increase that and hockey will continue to flourish - it's finally starting to gain a spot on the telly schedule that it deserves.

So yes as a football you will praise Leicesters win as higher - me as a hockey and football fan see the result tonight as the bigger achievement

Sorry phil, but the points are the same. You were saying how unlikely it was. Bookies odds, simply quantify that. And I'd suggest Leicesters win was more against the odds, be that bookies or simply using the phrase than the hickey win.

Me me being a football fan has nothing to do with how I see the too results. As I've clearly stated I made my decision based on the unlikely ends of the outcome. So I a, not showing a bias towards football at all.

I I respect everything else you've said as you will clearly have a better understanding of the impact it may cause. But, I'm showing no bias in my choice, even if you feel I am.
 

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Great result for the ladies, but unless they were 5001-1shots I can't see how they win team of the year....
Leicester were 5000/1,if you said they were going to win the title before a ball was kicked you would have looked pretty silly.

Not sure where the women's hockey team were in the rankings before the Olympics,but unless they were 18th or lower I reckon Leicester is the biggest shock & bigger achievement.
 
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