SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
For most comps we require eight WHS qualifying cards in 12 months to comp date. GP cards at ‘away’ clubs to not count towards the eight. Scratch and Handicap Club Champs require four club comp cards in the eight.
MINIMUM QUALIFYING CARDS
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wjemather
Well-known member
What the purpose of requiring handicapping scores for a scratch comp?
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
We have separate Scratch and Handicap trophies played for over the Club Championship weekend - members enter both so the qualifying card criteria applies.
rulefan
Tour Winner
What is a "qualifying" card?
NearHull
Well-known member
A good number of English clubs have a variety of ‘additional’ entry/prize conditions for competitions, the number of counting scores being the most common. We introduced it three years ago - 6 scores in 12 months of which 3 must be competitions. The main issue I have, is the administrative work around policing it.
For members, we use the EG database report of GP v Comp scores, exported into .xls and then filtered. For Opens, we check all winners names individually through the EG Database. Each method is time consuming and a bit of a b****ache.
I put in a request to EG about 18 months ago asking for a report whereby the administrator can input their particular criteria/ combination. EG replied that it isn’t a priority for them ( or similar words).
Perhaps, if more requests were made for such a report , they may respond. The data is there in the software , it just needs a report designing ( and the will to do it). They could even go one step further and add a ‘Q’ against each member to show that they meet the entry condition criteria for their home club.
For members, we use the EG database report of GP v Comp scores, exported into .xls and then filtered. For Opens, we check all winners names individually through the EG Database. Each method is time consuming and a bit of a b****ache.
I put in a request to EG about 18 months ago asking for a report whereby the administrator can input their particular criteria/ combination. EG replied that it isn’t a priority for them ( or similar words).
Perhaps, if more requests were made for such a report , they may respond. The data is there in the software , it just needs a report designing ( and the will to do it). They could even go one step further and add a ‘Q’ against each member to show that they meet the entry condition criteria for their home club.
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
We have always had a similar requirement for our Seniors Club Championship Trophy comp.
It was there to stop the 'trophy raiders' from entering as the only Seniors comp they ever played in.
Pre WHS the requirement was to have played in a minimum of 3 seniors comps in the same calendar year as the comp.
wjemather
Well-known member
Assuming these are midweek, this seems rather unfair on (usually) younger seniors who are not retired (can't see many people willing to use of 3 days of their holiday entitlement to play in regular seniors comps in order to be eligible for the club championship)?
3 jabber
Well-known member
I have no idea but at my club you have to have a certain number of competition cards in the system to be able to win prizes. I assume a 'qualifying' card is one from a competition?
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
It was an older requirement, we have now adopted the clubs 5 card requirement.
Seniors comps are used as fund raisers with some of the funds going in to this and and other Senior Trophy comps.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
My club is now saying you need to have 8 competition rounds played in the last 12 months in order to win a board comp or enter a matchplay knockout. It used to be 4 now they've raised it to 8.
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
That could be really hard for a weekend player where I play. Although we run a comp once a month on Saturdays. The ones from October to March will sometimes be cancelled or become non qualifiers due to the course conditions plus some of the comps are better ball.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
When they announced the change I was on 5 in the last 12 months! There are probably competitions two or three weekends per month, but over the last year I was coincidentally only to able play Saturday when the comp was on Sunday, or vice versa, quite a lot of the time. I have added one more comp and should be entering another one this Sunday to bring me to 7. First board comp is not til mid-April so I should be ok to get another one in by then.
Swango1980
Well-known member
Would be interesting to know why they changed this. Was it a popular choice amongst members, or a result of one or 2 whiny members unhappy a higher handicapper won that hasn't played much
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
No - it’s simply a round and a card that is acceptable for WHS purposes and meets any additional entry criteria that the club chooses to set - I used the word ‘qualifying’ to describe such rounds. We have an entry criteria for club champs of four of eight ‘qualifying’ cards required being competition cards at home club.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
I don't know, but if it was the latter, they probably wouldn't have admitted that on the email informing us about it.
I always tend to assume it's a handful of whingebags moaning about high handicappers and general play cards though, yeah.
