Bdill93
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LIV Golf
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wjemather
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Only 5 or 6 have exemptions beyond the Masters, which doesn't include Gooch, Reed, Niemann, etc. And only the opens have a qualification route - there is no way of getting into either the Masters or PGA without an exemption or invitation.
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Deleted member 29109
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They do. So we should just ignore they way they treat people because they throw a few quid at the woman’s game.
wjemather
Well-known member
Oosthuizen probably decided to rely on his exemption as a past champion.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Apologies..maybe it was Gooch or another....
Point still stands....
SteveW86
Head Pro
They could qualify for The Open, win it and then they are in the other majors for the next 5 years.
wjemather
Well-known member
They could, but that ignores why these exemptions (top-x in the OWGR, FEC, RtD, etc.) exist. It's about ensuring the best players are in the field and avoiding the one-day lottery of final qualifying.
SteveW86
Head Pro
If they are better than the rest, they will qualify.
All I am hearing is excuses that its not fair. The players could quite easily take qualifying seriously and then do their best to prove that they are as good (or better) than everyone else. I dont think anybody is doubting that LIV have a few players who can hold their own at the top of the game, but it is genuinely a handful of players right now and I dont see how that has a measureable negative effect on the Majors.
Not sure there’ll be many people rushing to see those 3 golfers unless you want to give Reed some stick
wjemather
Well-known member
Do you really not understand how this (or golf) works? If they are better than the rest ON THE DAY, they will qualify. But anyone, even the best players of all time, have bad days and miss cuts, nevermind miss the top 5-10 of the leaderboard. Stick the top-10 of the OWGR though qualifying and several wouldn't make it through. The majors want the strongest fields without the randomness of a one-day shootout - that is why these exemption categories were created.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
That is the bed they made for themselves when they went to LIV though - isn't that the point? They went for more money and a lighter schedule, which is fine, but they knew there had to be a downside. If they have to qualify for a major then so be it, as long as they always have that opportunity to try and qualify.
wjemather
Well-known member
I thought we were talking about how to ensure the best players are playing in the majors. What has their (perceived) popularity got to do with that?
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Deleted member 29109
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So why did the majors just decide not to give LiV ranking points?
Unless they are going to give them exemptions another way.
Bryson saying the top 12 should get exemptions is laughable. Maybe 4 LiV players at a push once existing exemptions run out.
The LiV lot sound like a load of spoiled brats who are used to getting their own way. Now they are all putting out quotes about it.
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Mel Smooth
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Absolutely not and I’m all for using Saudi investment in sport as a catalyst for discussing the rights and wrongs of their legal system. But, we would very soon cross the line into political discussion which isn’t allowed on here.
SteveW86
Head Pro
Of course I understand, all you are doing by throwing that statement out is lower tone of the discussion.
Yes, everyone has a bad day but as @Orikoru and others have said, that is they bed they made for themselves when they made their choice to join LIV. Lets be honest, the vast majority of people who take part in the qualifying process arent the best players in the world anyway are they? They also dont need to win on the day, just place in the top 5 or 10. If these players would be such a great addition to the majors, coming top 10 over 36 holes in a weak field shouldnt be too much of a problem for them!
wjemather
Well-known member
Politics. Other respected ranking systems (datagolf, tugr, etc.) manage to include LIV just fine.
I'm sure specific exemptions have been discussed. If it does happen it will be a small number; extremely unlikely to be anywhere near 12. However, given how many LIV players were top-50/60/100, 12 is not entirely laughable.
wjemather
Well-known member
Not really. The real question is: how do the majors ensure their fields include the best players; not, how do the players ensure they get in the majors. The tour players choose to compete on should not be relevant.
How could you justify anyone meaningful ranking points for beating Chase Koepka ?
How could you justify giving any ranking points to Chase Koepka ?
How could you justify giving any ranking points to Chase Koepka ?
The majors have ensured their field includes the best players.
If a bunch of todays top 50 owgr suddenly jumped to LIV, then they would have to do something. But in the context of today, no action was needed. They dont need to modify the system to allow for a potential future scenario. If anything, it is more likely LIV will fold or fade away even further.
