Mel Smooth
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It will satisfy the qualifying criteria for 2024, they could very easily introduce local qualifying for 2023, which I expect they will if required.
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It will satisfy the qualifying criteria for 2024, they could very easily introduce local qualifying for 2023, which I expect they will if required.
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Will they ?
But Greg Norman says they fulfil what’s required for ranking points ? Just as BDC said as well ? So what changes will they bring in if they already think they fulfil the requirements
Mel Smooth
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Will they ?
So what changes will they bring in if they already think they fulfil the requirements
As I’ve said MULTIPLE times Phil, they will do what is required to get points.
doublebogey7
Head Pro
Really, show me where there have even intimated that GN seems to believe they already meet the criteria when they most clearly do not.
Beezerk
Money List Winner
Christ, the PGA bots are in full flow today ?
doublebogey7
Head Pro
Mel Smooth
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I hope that’s intended as a joke, and not intended to try and prove me wrong.
Mel Smooth
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Looks like DJ might be regretting his move over to LIV.
;-)
;-)
Springveldt
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Might need those eyes tested then. ? For me, JT has one of the highest ceilings of any player. He just has everything and every shot. Some of the rounds he played last season in high winds were unbelievable, flighting in a 7 iron to 17 at Sawgrass, winning a few tournaments while being on the wrong end of the draw etc.
Springveldt
Well-known member
No route to the Masters or PGA though.
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Deleted member 15344
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Yes they can - nothing stopping them following that route for those two majors
Also good to see one LIV golfer can see it how it is
Mel Smooth
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The video where that quote was taken from, shows his comments in their true context. HVIII is a great guy, and fits the LIV series well, I expect he’s great to be around as well.
cleveland52
Active member
Hey
Hey wait Harold!!! GN on the phone and he wants to talk to you!
r0wly86
Head Pro
The more I think about it the more I have come to the conclusion that Norman has really messed up.
Things like sponsorship, TV deals, access to majors, and world ranking points the most basic of things to get sorted, or at least to be advanced discussions about before really starting up. Instead he has splashed what must be in to the billions of dollars already with no TV deal, very limited sponsorship, no guaranteed access to majors, and at the moment no world ranking points.
The issue I think it that Norman has come in swinging his member about trying to prove that he could manage the biggest tour better than the PGA can, so with no strong foundation, none of the things above that should have been sorted, no USP has put himself and LIV in direct competition and antagonistically I must say with the richest, most established, and strongest tour in the world. The way they've gone about it has actually given some sympathy to the PGAT who are hardly paragons of virtue.
Instead, if they started smaller with a strong USP, they could have said they are aiming to make a truly global game, and grow the game. Have community outreach like sending some players into schools or local golf clubs for publicity and community engagement. Even if people protested the source of the funding they couldn't fault the message and ambition.
They could still have large purses, but concentrate on getting sponsorship to cover the running costs, and prioritise FTA TV deals in the countries where the tournaments are.
Before starting make sure that they can get World Ranking points and over time try and grow the field strength through high purses and other incentives.
Things like sponsorship, TV deals, access to majors, and world ranking points the most basic of things to get sorted, or at least to be advanced discussions about before really starting up. Instead he has splashed what must be in to the billions of dollars already with no TV deal, very limited sponsorship, no guaranteed access to majors, and at the moment no world ranking points.
The issue I think it that Norman has come in swinging his member about trying to prove that he could manage the biggest tour better than the PGA can, so with no strong foundation, none of the things above that should have been sorted, no USP has put himself and LIV in direct competition and antagonistically I must say with the richest, most established, and strongest tour in the world. The way they've gone about it has actually given some sympathy to the PGAT who are hardly paragons of virtue.
Instead, if they started smaller with a strong USP, they could have said they are aiming to make a truly global game, and grow the game. Have community outreach like sending some players into schools or local golf clubs for publicity and community engagement. Even if people protested the source of the funding they couldn't fault the message and ambition.
They could still have large purses, but concentrate on getting sponsorship to cover the running costs, and prioritise FTA TV deals in the countries where the tournaments are.
Before starting make sure that they can get World Ranking points and over time try and grow the field strength through high purses and other incentives.
Swango1980
Well-known member
Completely agree.
Completely ignored the basics, and gone in all guns blazing, throwing money around, making a lot of noise, and thinking all that would result in LIV becoming the greatest golf tour on earth. Had they got the basics right, had a solid foundation to build from, they surely would have been able to quickly build a tour with a lot more credibility. Perhaps Greg Norman's impatience got the better of him?
The only people I have ever heard of that actually like LIV are a handful of people in this forum. Not met anyone in real life that has any interest in watching it, and only occasionally discuss the politics of it. Maybe all these new fans LIV are picking up are aussie rules football fans?
Depreston
Club Champion
Norman came in as the disruptor I can’t see him being around for the long term he will be replaced by a more welcoming diplomat in 18-24 months
pokerjoke
Money List Winner
I enjoy watching it
No adverts just golf
Couldn’t care less if the winner wins 4 million or 400 million because it won’t effect my standard of living whatsoever.
GB72
Money List Winner
I am with you on this. If I want to watch golf, I really do not care who it is, where it is and especially how much the prize money is. I just want to watch some people trying to put a little white ball in the hole.
The whole thing has put pretty much everyone involved in golf in a poor light as far as I am concerned and that is on both sides. As i have mentioned before, the best outcome that I can see is for the whole house of cards to come down and start a full rebuild as I really do not find the attitudes or stances of anyone involved at the moment particularly attractive.
Swango1980
Well-known member
Yeah. I don't really care how much a golfer wins either. I just like to see a group of golfers battling it out, all of whom have qualified to be in the field to compete
I guess Pat Perez qualified, his qualification criteria being he was DJ's mate
pokerjoke
Money List Winner
I understand where your coming fromYeah. I don't really care how much a golfer wins either. I just like to see a group of golfers battling it out, all of whom have qualified to be in the field to compete
I guess Pat Perez qualified, his qualification criteria being he was DJ's mate
I suspect by your comments you are not a watcher?
Whether or not it’s all been gone about the wrong way,unless someone is willing to change and start talking,instead of slating each other it will stay the same.
With the womens Liv just around the corner,and these women will be offered unbelievable amounts of money compared to what they are earning.
The womens game could actually take a bigger hit than the mens.
