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But your view isnt a genuine view Mel.
Sometimes there isnt a debate. Or presenting a side of an argument for the sake of debate distorts the situation. There is no question but that LIV is disruptive to the bad, a garbage tour, and add nothing to the entertainment offering of pro golf. Arguing it makes you look like paid Liv advocate, or especially dim. Its like debating with climate change deniers, qanon, or faked moon landings believers - its not a debate. There is only one rational view on LIV - its a stinking pile of, and no sports fans want it or are interested in it succeeding.
 
But your view isnt a genuine view Mel.
Sometimes there isnt a debate. Or presenting a side of an argument for the sake of debate distorts the situation. There is no question but that LIV is disruptive to the bad, a garbage tour, and add nothing to the entertainment offering of pro golf. Arguing it makes you look like paid Liv advocate, or especially dim. Its like debating with climate change deniers, qanon, or faked moon landings believers - its not a debate. There is only one rational view on LIV - its a stinking pile of, and no sports fans want it or are interested in it succeeding.

Well that’s just your view mate, but suggesting I’m dim is a bit unnecessary.
I know if I did the same, I’d have the wrath of Phil the Fragger to answer to.
 
Well that’s just your view mate, but suggesting I’m dim is a bit unnecessary.
I know if I did the same, I’d have the wrath of Phil the Fragger to answer to.
Im not really suggesting it. Its just if one took your posts as face value, one could. But as I have said also, its clear you are not, but my point is that you are arguing the unarguable and suggesting by that, that there is merit in LIV, when we all know, you included, that there isnt.
 
Im not really suggesting it. Its just if one took your posts as face value, one could. But as I have said also, its clear you are not, but my point is that you are arguing the unarguable and suggesting by that, that there is merit in LIV, when we all know, you included, that there isnt.

Ok, I think I’ll just block you if you actually believe it’s reasonable to suggest I’m lying for the sake of forming a debate on here. Infact, you’re not a Foxholer alter ego are you?
 
What’s that then?

I’m just debating the issue from the LIV side of the argument - obviously outnumbered on this platform by those that aren’t fans, but happy to keep contributing despite the seemingly unwavering views shared by both sides.

As for twitter news, Smith, Leishman and Tringale apparently confirmed as going, plus another top 30 player that will be a ‘bombshell’. The twitter account is Argentinian, and lots of speculation it will be Joaquin Niemann, which would be deemed a big signing in that part of the world.
I honestly don’t know why people are having a dig at you considering the absolute bull that comes out of some peoples mouths.
Some people actually believe they own this forum and it’s there way or no way.
Experts in every walk of life.
Experts on every subject,debating for weeks until everyone becomes tired and sick to death.
I can’t think of one positive debate on here in at least 2 years.
Liv has woken up the PGA tour
People now playing for more money than ever ,thx to Liv.
Of course it’s not about the money ?
 
But your view isnt a genuine view Mel.
Sometimes there isnt a debate. Or presenting a side of an argument for the sake of debate distorts the situation. There is no question but that LIV is disruptive to the bad, a garbage tour, and add nothing to the entertainment offering of pro golf. Arguing it makes you look like paid Liv advocate, or especially dim. Its like debating with climate change deniers, qanon, or faked moon landings believers - its not a debate. There is only one rational view on LIV - its a stinking pile of, and no sports fans want it or are interested in it succeeding.

I don’t think there is any need to start insulting him like that

He has an opinion about LIV and whilst at times it reads from a script that you see all over social media you can’t start calling people dim etc
 
But your view isnt a genuine view Mel.
Sometimes there isnt a debate. Or presenting a side of an argument for the sake of debate distorts the situation. There is no question but that LIV is disruptive to the bad, a garbage tour, and add nothing to the entertainment offering of pro golf. Arguing it makes you look like paid Liv advocate, or especially dim. Its like debating with climate change deniers, qanon, or faked moon landings believers - its not a debate. There is only one rational view on LIV - its a stinking pile of, and no sports fans want it or are interested in it succeeding.

This way of looking at the world, and of people you disagree with, smacks of a lot of things..

I don’t think I need to spell them out. But they’re not in the least desirable
 
This is quite a telling interview from Rahm - regarding the 20 event minimum event requirement that the PGA Tour are introducing, to counter the threat of LIV



Just seen this too. To me and I could be very wrong but it sounds like Tiger and Rory could possibly be doing more harm than good to players still on the PGA by these secret meetings etc. The way that he answers you're asking the wrong person seems to indicate that all this is being led by them 2 who obviously not in it for the money, more fame and more recognition. At all.

Westwood tweeted about this interview too and mentioned that meeting last week. Golf has gone from being viewed as a boring, old rules driven sport to kind of interesting with LIV and the way it's played to money/fame driven, petulant, intensely boring arguments from players that earn obscene amounts of money talking about the same thing time and time again. It's like a how to build and destroy the game in 12 months.
 
Eddie is clearly miffed he didn’t get a text from Sharky isn’t he Phil?
Eddie is always very appreciative of the ET and doesn’t seem to be a fan of LIV and Westwood who jumped quickly shoold just go away quietly
 
A bit ironic from Eddie isn’t it? He’s been a vocal anti LIV Twitter poster.

I think he's always been in the just admit you went for the money camp more than anything else.

All this squabbling between the players is fairly interesting in a kind of social media fallout point of view but is getting as boring as a school friendship group fallout.
 
But your view isnt a genuine view Mel.
Sometimes there isnt a debate. Or presenting a side of an argument for the sake of debate distorts the situation. There is no question but that LIV is disruptive to the bad, a garbage tour, and add nothing to the entertainment offering of pro golf. Arguing it makes you look like paid Liv advocate, or especially dim. Its like debating with climate change deniers, qanon, or faked moon landings believers - its not a debate. There is only one rational view on LIV - its a stinking pile of, and no sports fans want it or are interested in it succeeding.
That's just your opinion, there are other views on LIV. Some think it's a good thing.
 
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