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[Bdill93]

I just think it suggests he appreciates what the PGA tour has given him tbh the chance to build a legacy of his own. (And plenty of money too)

I don’t see Rahm jumping ship to be honest. Guys all about the history.

Plus - PIF surely aren’t going to finance a huge payout when they’re now merging the tours. Unless LIV does continue as normal after?

 

[BrianM]

PGA TOUR Commissioner Jay Monahan recovering from medical situation

Joint Statement from TOUR Commissioner Jay Monahan and the PGA TOUR Policy Board

www.pgatour.com

Sounds ominous…..

 

[Mel Smooth]

PGA TOUR Commissioner Jay Monahan recovering from medical situation

Joint Statement from TOUR Commissioner Jay Monahan and the PGA TOUR Policy Board

www.pgatour.com

Sounds ominous…..

Quite a vague statement that has already triggered a lot of speculation. Let's hope he's Ok.

 

[ColchesterFC]

PGA TOUR Commissioner Jay Monahan recovering from medical situation

Joint Statement from TOUR Commissioner Jay Monahan and the PGA TOUR Policy Board

www.pgatour.com

Sounds ominous…..

If it was the Russians that were investing in the PGA Tour I'd be tempted to suggest that his "medical situation" might have been falling out of the window of a high rise. Maybe with the Saudis investing his medical situation is something to do with knives and an embassy.

 

[Deleted member 21445]

I obviously hope he is OK but I suspect this is a start of a process for Jay to exit stage left..

His handling of this whole situation from the very beginning to end has frankly been very poor and he has now lost the support of the players.

 

[Yorkhacker]

Maybe somebody has shoved a driver, head first up his ass and he's having it removed.

 

[JonnyGutteridge]

Medical tests showed that Jay was in fact, spineless.
Or Jay is having an operation to have his foot removed from his mouth?

 

[BubbaP]

Mischief jokes from Brooks, apparently as closing the interview, he says to the journalists....

"See you at Travelers next week."

 

[Deleted member 1147]

Not so long ago there discussions about quite a few LIVers not going for US Open qualifying. The suggestion on here was that they wouldn't have to, as they knew change was afoot.
What's the situation now? is Gooch in? etc

 

[BubbaP]

Not so long ago there discussions about quite a few LIVers not going for US Open qualifying. The suggestion on here was that they wouldn't have to, as they knew change was afoot.
What's the situation now? is Gooch in? etc

Didn't see that suggestion, and as US Open is not run by PGAT then nothing is changing there I suspect.
Think Gooch may still be on hols..

https://twitter.com/x/status/1666149231801819136

 

[Mel Smooth]

Quite a cool experience for these two young lads.

Thanks to Cam, young Aussies get major lessons | LIV Golf

For the two latest winners of the Cameron Smith Scholarship, the lessons learned as his U.S. Open guests will be invaluable.

www.livgolf.com

 

[AussieKB]

Saudis expected to compensate PGA Tour loyalists who spurned LIV Golf's millions: report​

Players like Rory McIlroy, Scottie Scheffler and Jon Rahm said no to millions​

Surely they will turn down the blood money ??????
or are they first class hypocrites....

Makes for good doco I think.

 

[Swango1980]

Saudis expected to compensate PGA Tour loyalists who spurned LIV Golf's millions: report​

Players like Rory McIlroy, Scottie Scheffler and Jon Rahm said no to millions​

Surely they will turn down the blood money ??????
or are they first class hypocrites....

Makes for good doco I think.

Depends why they turned down the money in the 1st place. Given that a lot of them turned down the money because they wanted to remain on the PGAT where proper golf is played, then no. I assume a lot of them have "blood money" in their accounts anyway, as they've been to the Middle East before.

Of course, it is a convenient and lazy argument to make for keyboard warriors when they want to make snidey comments

 

[BrianM]

Depends why they turned down the money in the 1st place. Given that a lot of them turned down the money because they wanted to remain on the PGAT where proper golf is played, then no. I assume a lot of them have "blood money" in their accounts anyway, as they've been to the Middle East before.

Of course, it is a convenient and lazy argument to make for keyboard warriors when they want to make snidey comments

What's proper golf?
I'm pretty sure the object of the game is the same, you might know better than me though
As for the blood money argument, Rory has had no issue in the past accepting money from the Far East, so doubt this will make a difference to him.
The 3 players mentioned haven't mentioned anything about blood money to my knowledge.
What will be interesting is the players that have mentioned were the money is coming from have a sudden change of heart.
The players will always have a choice, maybe not an easy one but still, if they feel that strongly about it they will turn the 'compensation' money down.

 

[Deleted member 21445]

1st little snippet of info from the Liv side.

Yasser Al Rumayyan has told Dustin Johnson a Liv schedule continues in 2024 under a merger.

Also Chamblee and Mcginly say PGAT need this deal to happen because the PGAT can't sustain current purses.
Also said the worst thing that could happen for the PGAT is for the merger not to happen.

Doesn't sound like a position of strength like the PGAT is putting out there.?

As has been mentioned many times, the money holds the power..

 

[Swango1980]

What's proper golf?
I'm pretty sure the object of the game is the same, you might know better than me though
As for the blood money argument, Rory has had no issue in the past accepting money from the Far East, so doubt this will make a difference to him.
The 3 players mentioned haven't mentioned anything about blood money to my knowledge.
What will be interesting is the players that have mentioned were the money is coming from have a sudden change of heart.
The players will always have a choice, maybe not an easy one but still, if they feel that strongly about it they will turn the 'compensation' money down.

Apologies, I used "proper golf" as a pretty generic time, to keep the sentence shorter.

I meant they stayed on the PGAT simply because they were loyal to that tour. They felt that was the best place to play golf, the most competitive and testing, where the tradition lies and continue earning their ranking points and so on. As you mention, I don't remember the reasoning given by many players that they couldn't accept blood money, as I'm sure that could easily be thrown back in their face when they've been shown to be happy enough with it in the past. In other words, I think most / all of them turned down LIV for golfing reasons, not financial. Had PIF just invested in the PGAT from the start, I'm guessing they'd all have happily accepted the outcome if more money went into their pockets.

 

[Bdill93]

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Taylormade Tour on Instagram have included DJ in their most recent club making vid....

He had disappeared before the "merger"

 

[D-S]

Have the ‘loyal’ players actually earned less because of LIV?

Or did they elect for a variety of reasons - security, stability, politics, dislike of the format, potential to win more due to rivals no longer playing their events - (all possibly now dressed up as loyalty) opt just not to take someone else’s money?

 

[Swango1980]

Have the ‘loyal’ players actually earned less because of LIV?

Or did they elect for a variety of reasons - security, stability, politics, dislike of the format, potential to win more due to rivals no longer playing their events - (all possibly now dressed up as loyalty) opt just not to take someone else’s money?

I hardly think that would be a reason. They'd think they'd have more chance to win LIV events, a field of 48 with only a handful of good players.

Other reasons may be fair, but not sure what you mean dressed up as loyalty? I don't think "blind" loyalty was their reasoning. There are explanations for their loyalty, a few of which you covered.

 

[D-S]

I hardly think that would be a reason. They'd think they'd have more chance to win LIV events, a field of 48 with only a handful of good players.

Other reasons may be fair, but not sure what you mean dressed up as loyalty? I don't think "blind" loyalty was their reasoning. There are explanations for their loyalty, a few of which you covered.

Perhaps it is just a definition of loyalty, to me it has some sort of noble self sacrificing aspect whereas the reasons for players not opting for LIV may well have been pure self interest- fear of the unknown, distrust, risk mitigation etc.
If they earned just as much (and perhaps more) by staying as they would have done anyway without LIV, there was no downside to staying.