doublebogey7
Head Pro
Surely if they had concerns then they ought to have turned up to raise them.
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I’d have thought the same, but it seems the top players have made their decision already, just an absolute mess.
Swango1980
Well-known member
What long held views did he previously hold? I assume he still doesn't want to join LIV, while I don't remember him ever saying the PGA was just perfect the way it was?
It was pretty obvious the PGAT was going to react when LIV appeared. It was going to give more power to it's top players, as it is desperate to keep hold of them. So, that has certainly benefitted professional golfers on the PGAT. At least at Rory's level, I've not looked into it enough to see how it benefits the guys on the fringes and the lower tours.
Of course, it is still true that LIV has split apart some of the worlds best players onto a different tour. I doubt Rory is now saying that is good for the game, just that the fact it has happened now means they are all getting paid more as professional golfers.
Or, are you trying to point score again?
Mel Smooth
Hacker
What long held views did he previously hold? I assume he still doesn't want to join LIV, while I don't remember him ever saying the PGA was just perfect the way it was?
It was pretty obvious the PGAT was going to react when LIV appeared. It was going to give more power to it's top players, as it is desperate to keep hold of them. So, that has certainly benefitted professional golfers on the PGAT. At least at Rory's level, I've not looked into it enough to see how it benefits the guys on the fringes and the lower tours.
Of course, it is still true that LIV has split apart some of the worlds best players onto a different tour. I doubt Rory is now saying that is good for the game, just that the fact it has happened now means they are all getting paid more as professional golfers.
Or, are you trying to point score again?
I'm just pointing out that he's contradicting things he has said in the past, again, with an ironic take on his name.
It's to be expected of course, he does tend to shoot from the hip a little as far as LIV is concerned, so he's bound to say things along the way that he may need to back track on later.
doublebogey7
Head Pro
I am not a fan of some of the changes, particularly the reduced fields, but the players on the board were put there by their peers, do only have themselves to blame.
doublebogey7
Head Pro
No you've made an accusation with no evidence to back it up.
Mel Smooth
Hacker
Will this do? Flushing it actually posted this after I'd made my post, obviously of the same mind as me.
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Also interesting that OWGR positioned itself where full fields with a cut were awarded the most points on the basis there were more people to beat.
So on that basis these limited field no cut PGAT events shouldn't get awarded many points ?
So on that basis these limited field no cut PGAT events shouldn't get awarded many points ?
Mel Smooth
Hacker
Also interesting that OWGR positioned itself where full fields with a cut were awarded the most points on the basis there were more people to beat.
So on that basis these limited field no cut PGAT events shouldn't get awarded many points ?
OWGR has kind of lost it's relevance right now, this year the majors will have all the players in there that we all want to see, but obviously in the future that trend will swing against players who aren't picking up points. So, unless there's a huge revamp of the points system, or who controls it, and assuming OWGR points will remain valid for majors going forwards, you can guarantee that those NC PGAT events, will get big points.
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Deleted member 15344
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The events that meet the qualifying criteria will gain the ranking points - nothing has changed since the last time it was complained about - the PGAT fulfill all the requirements to gain points for its events.
As we all know once LIV fulfill the requirements they will gain ranking points
As we all know once LIV fulfill the requirements they will gain ranking points
doublebogey7
Head Pro
Not sure how that is changing his tune, it's simply dealing with the reality. Sometimes we all have to go along with something we don't like in life.
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Deleted member 29109
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Because they will have strong fields. The LiV events won’t.
Mel Smooth
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Mel Smooth
Hacker
Of course they'll have strong fields, the OWGR points are still accumulating on the PGAT, on LIV they aren't - and so the field rating is artificially lowered on LIV. That said, the elite PGAT series will undoubtedly have a better spread of players.
doublebogey7
Head Pro
There is already an established system for awarding points for such events. There is no established system for awarding points to invite only Leagues.Also interesting that OWGR positioned itself where full fields with a cut were awarded the most points on the basis there were more people to beat.
So on that basis these limited field no cut PGAT events shouldn't get awarded many points ?
BubbaP
Occasional Player of Golf
Not sure this is on correct thread, but...Also interesting that OWGR positioned itself where full fields with a cut were awarded the most points on the basis there were more people to beat.
So on that basis these limited field no cut PGAT events shouldn't get awarded many points ?
The reduced field size would impact on field strength and hence points, but am sure they've done the maths.
i.e.
Sentry 39 players FS 197
Honda 145 players FS 182
And don't forget the OWGR give points to all players in no cut events. (as discussed elsewhere)
Smigger79
Club Champion
I watched the press conference and he didn’t say he thought “LIV was great”.
Mel Smooth
Hacker
That tweet doesn't say he 'said' that either.
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Swango1980
Well-known member
Does the tweet not say "he thinks LIV is great"? How do 5hey know this, if he didn't say it? Did he write it in a private WhatsApp msg, and now they are making it public?
Mel Smooth
Hacker
The author of the tweet is paraphrasing - admittedly with an angle - to make the point.
Rory did say this.. "I'm not going to sit here and lie – the emergence of LIV has benefited everyone that plays elite professional golf,“
I think it's fair to conclude from that, that Rory thinks LIV has been great, for at least some of the pro's out there - himself included.
