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pauljames87

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Off course it’s about money, If you’re earning 80k a year and a new start up company offers you 160k a year with better Terms and Condition, better pension etc, you’d take the job, No?

There obviously other factors but money makes the world go round.

More money less work? A lot of people will sign up for that

Some don't care for money

Rory wants to do his own thing he rich as hell and wants to become even better rather than just richer

Respect both the models
 

doublebogey7

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Liverpool supporter questions ethics of sportspeople chasing money. Brilliant.

Surprised your morals don’t drive you to support Accrington Stanley Phil. ;-)

Of course it’s money, and a better quality of life. What do you want them to be… PGA Tour martyrs?

Sorry but Phil is not at all moralising about money, he's simply pointing out the truth and that thy all went purely and simply for the dosh and eveything else, is simply guff. Nothing at all wrong with with the real reason had I been good enough (not a chance) who knows , I may have taken the same route, but I damn well know I would have been completely honest about it unlike most of those that have gone to LiV.
 

Liverpoolphil

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Liverpool supporter questions ethics of sportspeople chasing money. Brilliant.

Surprised your morals don’t drive you to support Accrington Stanley Phil. ;-)

Of course it’s money, and a better quality of life. What do you want them to be… PGA Tour martyrs?

Sorry but what does the team I support have to do with anything 🤷‍♂️

yes it is just money so why do they have keep trying to justify its beyond the money 🤷‍♂️
 

doublebogey7

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It’s obvious that it’s the guaranteed money that is the overwhelming reason for the vast majority of LIV golfers

It’s obvious that it is almost exclusively a closed-shop
But isn’t it equally glaringly obvious that it is ‘money’ to the top players / big names — whether through PIP or through changes in prize money % — that is the prime driver for the changes to the PGA Tour that is the ‘Hollowing out’ of the middle/bottom tiers of the PGA Tour - whilst the richest get richer

Equally as true @Liverpoolphil

I whole heartingly agree, but I am a little confused here, as a LiV supporter you can't seriously be saying that is a bad thing given that it is they who have driven it. In my view it is another reason not to support LiV
 
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Bdill93

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So they had all that before with the PGA or ET 🤷‍♂️

They could pick and choose when they played

The one difference is clear - money 🤷‍♂️

Why can’t you just stop with all the other lies and state it exactly how we all know it is - money

I assume you mean the players stop with their lies because I'm only hypothesizing.

Of course its money! Less work and more pay!

But all LIV players aren't the same, as stated, some clearly want money coming in from every angle they can - Reed being the biggest example. And some like Bryson & DJ, seem to be playing where they're allowed to and finding other ways to spend their newfound free time too.

In actual fact, I cant remember much being said by DJ, he's literally just chilling :ROFLMAO:
 

Mel Smooth

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Sorry but what does the team I support have to do with anything 🤷‍♂️

yes it is just money so why do they have keep trying to justify its beyond the money 🤷‍♂️


Who’s said the money isn’t a factor?

Loads of players will have joined LIV for multiple reasons, not JUST for the money.

Again, it’s a recycled debate that we’ve done to death multiple times on this thread.

Perhaps you want to discuss the sponsorship deals that Andrew Carter alluded to. Personally I wouldn’t be surprised to see a few club manufacturers come on board.
 

BiMGuy

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In actual fact, I cant remember much being said by DJ, he's literally just chilling :ROFLMAO:

He seems to be the only one who has been honest about why he went to LiV.

The others have tied themselves in knots with their BS reasons. See Bubba this week as a prime example!
 

Liverpoolphil

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Who’s said the money isn’t a factor?

Loads of players will have joined LIV for multiple reasons, not JUST for the money.

Again, it’s a recycled debate that we’ve done to death multiple times on this thread.

Perhaps you want to discuss the sponsorship deals that Andrew Carter alluded to. Personally I wouldn’t be surprised to see a few club manufacturers come on board.

Do you ever read what’s posted 🤦‍♂️

Money is the reason they all went to LIV

That is the reason they went to liv because they were offered a lot of money just to play golf

Anything else they dribble out is just nonsense to try and make it look like they aren’t just a bunch of money grabbers
 

Bdill93

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He seems to be the only one who has been honest about why he went to LiV.

The others have tied themselves in knots with their BS reasons. See Bubba this week as a prime example!

Yeah the older guys that have gone have definitely just played a numbers game - very unlikely to win on the PGA tour again - could win on the ET but maybe not a big event - so they cash in on their final few years in golf.

100% Should have just said that and owned it :ROFLMAO:
 

Swango1980

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Who’s said the money isn’t a factor?

Loads of players will have joined LIV for multiple reasons, not JUST for the money.

Again, it’s a recycled debate that we’ve done to death multiple times on this thread.

Perhaps you want to discuss the sponsorship deals that Andrew Carter alluded to. Personally I wouldn’t be surprised to see a few club manufacturers come on board.
The key thing is, it is JUST the money that was the primary reason for all the players to join LIV. If the money on offer was just the same as the PGAT, then they wouldn't go. They certainly wouldn't have gone to LIV if the money was less, even knowing they could get more time off, play in a team, wear shorts, etc.

The other reasons are just other consequences of joining LIV that players might see as a positive. Sign up for LIV, get all this money, wooohoooo. Ohh, and I get more time off and can spend it with my family? Happy days, bonus.
 

Mel Smooth

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Do you ever read what’s posted 🤦‍♂️

Money is the reason they all went to LIV

That is the reason they went to liv because they were offered a lot of money just to play golf

Anything else they dribble out is just nonsense to try and make it look like they aren’t just a bunch of money grabbers

Hilarious.

I post a link to somebody who has spoken to multiple LIV players off record, who all say how much they are loving the freedom and fun that LIV is giving them, and you tell me I’m not reading what gets posted, and that it’s just about the money and nothing else.

Liverparodyphil, would be a better username.
 

doublebogey7

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Hilarious.

I post a link to somebody who has spoken to multiple LIV players off record, who all say how much they are loving the freedom and fun that LIV is giving them, and you tell me I’m not reading what gets posted, and that it’s just about the money and nothing else.

Liverparodyphil, would be a better username.
Oh the irony😛
 

Liverpoolphil

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Hilarious.

I post a link to somebody who has spoken to multiple LIV players off record, who all say how much they are loving the freedom and fun that LIV is giving them, and you tell me I’m not reading what gets posted, and that it’s just about the money and nothing else.

Liverparodyphil, would be a better username.

😂😂 you must be extremely gullible if you believe all the guff any player comes out with

They went to LIV because of the money - simple as that , anyone who thinks any different is deluded

They go to the PGAT for money and entry in majors , they play in Rolex events for money and entry into majors and Ryder cup

They play on LIV because they get paid a lot of money

They are loving the money they earn regardless of how they play

They don’t have any more “freedom” than they did on the other tours

Under LIV they “have to play every event” and encouraged to play other Asian Events

Under PGAT and ET they have to play a certain amount of events - but can pick and chose which ones they are
 

TheDiablo

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Has anybody noticed the ‘multiple sponsorships incoming’ talk is just this months ‘multiple TV networks bidding’ chat?

It is designed to try and create FOMO and hope someone bites. In reality, they’ll have a PIF owned airline sponsoring the ‘High-Flyers’ and the Saudi Govt sponsoring ‘The Beheaders’

At a stretch, they might convince Bob Parsons to sponsor a PXG team, probably for nothing. And we’ll then have to endure a load of people saving face trying to spin that as a major success 🥱
 

Depreston

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Has anybody noticed the ‘multiple sponsorships incoming’ talk is just this months ‘multiple TV networks bidding’ chat?

It is designed to try and create FOMO and hope someone bites. In reality, they’ll have a PIF owned airline sponsoring the ‘High-Flyers’ and the Saudi Govt sponsoring ‘The Beheaders’

At a stretch, they might convince Bob Parsons to sponsor a PXG team, probably for nothing. And we’ll then have to endure a load of people saving face trying to spin that as a major success 🥱

Yeah thought they had loads of offers in the US for their tv rights they’ve gave it to free to the home of dawsons creek and power rangers
 

BiMGuy

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Has anybody noticed the ‘multiple sponsorships incoming’ talk is just this months ‘multiple TV networks bidding’ chat?

It is designed to try and create FOMO and hope someone bites. In reality, they’ll have a PIF owned airline sponsoring the ‘High-Flyers’ and the Saudi Govt sponsoring ‘The Beheaders’

At a stretch, they might convince Bob Parsons to sponsor a PXG team, probably for nothing. And we’ll then have to endure a load of people saving face trying to spin that as a major success 🥱

How many times has there been a rumour about something big coming over the winter? And they announced a TV deal they are paying for and another player no one will miss.

It’s all just spin and more spin.

Carter has been taking money from that region for years. I would take anything he says with a handful of salt.
 

Mel Smooth

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Quite comical this thread now, most of the posts are now from anti-LIV guys, who's desperation to downplay the significance of LIV seems to be growing exponentially in the face of the realisation that LIV hasn't failed, and isn't going to.


Time to accept it for what it is, and just get on with either enjoying it, or ignoring it.
 

TheDiablo

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How many times has there been a rumour about something big coming over the winter? And they announced a TV deal they are paying for and another player no one will miss.

It’s all just spin and more spin.

Carter has been taking money from that region for years. I would take anything he says with a handful of salt.

Exactly. How the hell would a guy who gets less than 10k views on most of his videos get access to ‘5-6 Liv players’ ??!

Notice how it is always ‘off camera’ on these type of things. Why would a guy who only makes money by doing things on camera, shout about off camera intel?!

Laughable. Yet people still drink the kool-aid as gospel
 
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