Quite comical this thread now, most of the posts are now from anti-LIV guys, who's desperation to downplay the significance of LIV seems to be growing exponentially in the face of the realisation that LIV hasn't failed, and isn't going to.
Time to accept it for what it is, and just get on with either enjoying it, or ignoring it.
Time to accept it for what it is, and just get on with either enjoying it, or ignoring it.