LIV Golf
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Jon Rahm has basically said what Phil Mickelson said months ago.
At least he speaks his mind!!
cleveland52
Active member
I think that Rahm has received an offer from LIV recently.....
JRS7
Member
LIV Golf is good for Golf, not bad.
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Deleted member 21445
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Rahm defo doesn't tow the Woods/McIlroy party line when it comes to Liv.
Saying they should be thankful to Liv and Liv Golfers should be available for Ryder Cup selection is polar opposite to Rorys stance.
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Deleted member 21445
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If Phil M is right that the PGA Tour has been sitting on 800million and some of it has only been released because of Liv then that will bring some resentment from the players.
Tiger is saying they had to take a loan to get through the pandemic.
Rest assured the journos will be digging deep to find the truth and it will all come out in the wash.
Tiger is saying they had to take a loan to get through the pandemic.
Rest assured the journos will be digging deep to find the truth and it will all come out in the wash.
How ?
Its an unalloyed bad surely ?
The changes it prompted on the pgat for Rahm and co may be good for their bank balances. But LIV has still shorn a handful of top golfers from compeition with their peers. Thats bad for competition, bad for us fans. Its bad...
Mel Smooth
Hacker
Eugenio Chacarra has said that Luke Donald has spoken to him about playing in future Ryder Cups, given that Donald is the captain next year, you'd assume he was meaning that one - but obviously he's a young man so plenty of opportunities down the line.
The Ryder Cup ban is laughable, it's incredibly petty. Shouldn't matter where players play, if they're good enough, they should be in the team - USA, or Europe. If DJ isn't in the US team in Italy, it will be a media sh!tstorm - the guy is one of the top dozen players in the world, let alone the USA.
Rahm has always remained level headed throughout this period in golf, hopefully ho words reach the people that matter.
Mel Smooth
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Zzzzzzzzz
Those "top players" will ALL compete in the majors - the actual events that people really care about - you've even made that point repeatedly on this thread.
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Deleted member 21445
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We are where we are because of actions on both sides.
The PGA Tour got their reaction all wrong because they thought no top players would leave their tour.
If they had negotiated right at the start when they held all the cards and all the players they could have held onto the players and had their events in the main season round the majors. Liv at that time would have just been happy to be accepted into the golfing calendar in any way.
Liv did nothing wrong by starting a new tour and simply offering players a new place of employment. This rhetoric that its all Livs fault is wrong, it obviously played a major part but both sides have responsibility for where we have ended up.
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Deleted member 21445
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The OWGR is so messed up..
Last time out they were saying the PGA Event got more points than the DPWT Championship because there were more players in the field.
This week we have this ?
Last time out they were saying the PGA Event got more points than the DPWT Championship because there were more players in the field.
This week we have this ?
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Deleted member 29109
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Come on. The field in Australia is weaker than a brew made with a second hand teabag.
cleveland52
Active member
LOL!......There're high school teams stronger than the fields in Australia and South Africa.
Yet, some can't help but get emotional and misty eyed over the weak points these tournaments deserve.
It's downright embarrassing.
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Deleted member 21445
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So was the last PGA Tour event but we were told it got strong points because it was a full field, 72 holes and a cut and the criteria for getting strong points was because you had to beat more people.
Hero is an exhibition event, stupidly small field and no cut, you have to beat 19 people to win the Hero so that doesn't make sense based on what we were told last time out
The system is flawed, Rahm said so, Tiger said so, everybody says so, so it must be so ?
In no time at all becoming no1 on OWGR will be meaningless unless they do something about it.
BubbaP
Occasional Player of Golf
I suspect many agents have been taking about offers, but I don't think Rahm is going in the short term. Think he is just observant on how it has already, and likely will affect him in 2023, plus not towing the Jay media line.
Did make me smile though, I reckon if Mel S had posted your post, in his often "excited puppy dog style", then half a dozen or so posters would have been triggered and would have piled in
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Mel Smooth
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"Excited puppy dog" !!
I thought I was more of a snarling Rottweiler
I thought I was more of a snarling Rottweiler
Swango1980
Well-known member
Just in case anybody missed it, there are a few that think the world ranking system is flawed. Just in case you missed the several thousand posts related to this earlier in the thread!
If you want a prediction as to how this thread will go over the next 3 months (until the next LIV event), you will hear a lot from LIV fans explaining how the World Ranking system is flawed and meaningless. They will provide lots of stats and comparisons to prove their point (after all, the people who post on this forum clearly have a lot more information and knowledge on this subject than the people who actually run and manage the system). Then, after 3 months of slating the system, once the first LIV event is over they'll be begging for LIV golfers to get World Ranking points.
Is there anything interesting actually being discussed in this thread at the moment? Like, what have the LIV golfers been up to since the last LIV event, and any ideas how they are filling the long gap until the end of February? Playing other golf events (except for the few that played the Oz Open), winter practice, court cases, family time, etc? If they are not playing any competitive golf until the end of Feb, thoughts on what their form will be like when they come back. Rusty, not "match fit"? Fresh and ready for action?
If you want a prediction as to how this thread will go over the next 3 months (until the next LIV event), you will hear a lot from LIV fans explaining how the World Ranking system is flawed and meaningless. They will provide lots of stats and comparisons to prove their point (after all, the people who post on this forum clearly have a lot more information and knowledge on this subject than the people who actually run and manage the system). Then, after 3 months of slating the system, once the first LIV event is over they'll be begging for LIV golfers to get World Ranking points.
Is there anything interesting actually being discussed in this thread at the moment? Like, what have the LIV golfers been up to since the last LIV event, and any ideas how they are filling the long gap until the end of February? Playing other golf events (except for the few that played the Oz Open), winter practice, court cases, family time, etc? If they are not playing any competitive golf until the end of Feb, thoughts on what their form will be like when they come back. Rusty, not "match fit"? Fresh and ready for action?
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
There's a few playing in SA at the moment.....
I'd imagine most of the LIV golfers are counting their money but Fatrick Read is also trying to work out what parcels he gets contain dog
BubbaP
Occasional Player of Golf
Curious - your repeated use of "LIV golfers", is it your belief that a number of individual players are somehow grouped into some single form of behaviour? A bit like stereotyping, or various 'isms ?
In case you missed it, I'm fairly sure it has been discussed on the forum how some are playing in various events across 4 or so tours - obviously not the PGAT. And some seem to be not playing much.
In case you missed it, believe most of the recent world ranking chat has been around the August 2022 changes. Unless you are suggesting some conspiracy, I don't think those changes relate to LIV starting up. I think a lot of people thought the system was flawed prior to 2022, that might even be why it was changed! Good luck with our prediction.
Are there really lots of "LIV fans" posting? Or perhaps mostly just some people who try to discuss things without heavy bias, conscious or unconscious.
