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The DP world tours position is clear. LIV players are not wanted nor needed.... they're there with the assistance of an injunction handed down by the court. It's not their job to help promote another tour.

Can't blame them for that.....

Hiarious, given the fact that the DPW tours primary objective is to now promote another tour.
 
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Think regardless of thoughts on Liv we all agree Can Smith is one of the best Golfers in the world.

Read something today saying that as it stands in a few months he will be ranked outside the top 50, DJ could be ranked near to 100 & BDC will be well outside the top 100.

How will OWGR be regarded by players and fans if that happens?
 

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Hiarious, given the fact that the DPW tours primary objective is to now promote another tour.
Not to promote. But has benefitted from the LIV situation to improve its own standing through closer association and a sort of most-favoured regional feeder tour. World Tour has done well out of LIV.
 

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Not to promote. But has benefitted frim the LIV situation to improve its own standing through closer association and a sort of most-favoured regional feeder tour. World Tour has done well of of LIV.

The popularity of Smiths win today shows that the banning of LIV players from the DPWT is completely pointless. What have they got to gain by stopping these quality players competing? I'd be genuinely interested to know peoples views on this.
 
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OWGR pts in the news again.

DPWT Australian PGA winner gets 10pts
Korn Ferry event winner gets 14pts

Does this mean the DPWT is less important than the Korn Ferry tour? ?
Surely the pro golfers in that 72hole event with a cut are stronger than a Korn Ferry event?

Who came up with this system because it seems odd to say the least.
 

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OWGR pts in the news again.

DPWT Australian PGA winner gets 10pts
Korn Ferry event winner gets 14pts

Does this mean the DPWT is less important than the Korn Ferry tour? ?
Surely the pro golfers in that 72hole event with a cut are stronger than a Korn Ferry event?

Who came up with this system because it seems odd to say the least.
There wasn't a KFT event this weekend was there?
But DPWT were co-sanctioning 2 events.

Perhaps a better comparison is how many KFT players will qualify to the PGAT...
 

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The popularity of Smiths win today shows that the banning of LIV players from the DPWT is completely pointless. What have they got to gain by stopping these quality players competing? I'd be genuinely interested to know peoples views on this.

It has a very much does have a strong point. It aligns the DP to the much stronger PGAT, rather than the weaker, and uncertain future, LIV tour.
Are you saying that you cannot see that?
 

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It has a very much does have a strong point. It aligns the DP to the much stronger PGAT, rather than the weaker, and uncertain future, LIV tour.
Are you saying that you cannot see that?


So why can't the DPWT be aligned to both? Has Smith winning in a co-sanctioned DPWT event damaged the tour in any way, or has it added to the event?

It's CLEARLY added to it, Champion golfer, current major holder, likeable guy...

How is it in the best interests of the DPWT to ban these players from their tournaments?
 

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Think regardless of thoughts on Liv we all agree Can Smith is one of the best Golfers in the world.

Read something today saying that as it stands in a few months he will be ranked outside the top 50, DJ could be ranked near to 100 & BDC will be well outside the top 100.

How will OWGR be regarded by players and fans if that happens?
You genuinely trying to start this again? Do you hope people will give different answers? If not, just go back a few pages and read what has been said already :)
 
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So why can't the DPWT be aligned to both? Has Smith winning in a co-sanctioned DPWT event damaged the tour in any way, or has it added to the event?

It's CLEARLY added to it, Champion golfer, current major holder, likeable guy...

How is it in the best interests of the DPWT to ban these players from their tournaments?

Can you really not understand why neither of the two main tours want to align with LIV ?

Surely after 6 months of LIV you can see why the tours won’t ever align with them ?

LIV is a closed shop , invite only - any alignment will be for LIV players to play in any event they wish - would it be two way traffic and any ET or PGAT player can play in any LIV event - no of course it wouldn’t.

The current event in Australia has nothing to do with LIV , it was there before LIV and there after LIV.
 
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You genuinely trying to start this again? Do you hope people will give different answers? If not, just go back a few pages and read what has been said already :)

Sorry if its already been mentioned I only dip in and out of this thread and don't read every post..
 

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Can you really not understand why neither of the two main tours want to align with LIV ?

Surely after 6 months of LIV you can see why the tours won’t ever align with them ?

LIV is a closed shop , invite only - any alignment will be for LIV players to play in any event they wish - would it be two way traffic and any ET or PGAT player can play in any LIV event - no of course it wouldn’t.

The current event in Australia has nothing to do with LIV , it was there before LIV and there after LIV.


So you want all the LIV players to be excluded from all other golf events Phil?

Can you explain how that benefits pro golf, and those that follow it?
 

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So you want all the LIV players to be excluded from all other golf events Phil?

Can you explain how that benefits pro golf, and those that follow it?
By killing off LIV, and having the PGAT has the clear first division of professional golf tournaments. All the worlds top players in a dozen of its events, and a good portion of them in 10 more.
That benefits those of us who follow pro golf as entertainment.
 
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So you want all the LIV players to be excluded from all other golf events Phil?

Can you explain how that benefits pro golf, and those that follow it?

Tell me why LIV golfers should be allowed to “leave” their home tours and go to another tour because of the levels of money given but then pick and chose what events they can also come back and play ?

Why should there be this small bunch of golfers getting everything they want ?

The players made a choice to go to a new tour and in doing so it meant they left another tour - their choice, they weren’t forced into it they all made the choice to follow the money.

Do you think it’s fair on those ET golfers that are fully committed to the tour then miss out with Mr LIV decides he wants to play in an event ?


The players leaving the two main tours didn’t care about pro golf , they didn’t care that they were diluting the viewing

Everything thats happened over the last 6 months always seems to be blamed on the PGAT or ET - yet it was all instigated by LIV - do you think you will ever blame them ?
 

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So why can't the DPWT be aligned to both? Has Smith winning in a co-sanctioned DPWT event damaged the tour in any way, or has it added to the event?

It's CLEARLY added to it, Champion golfer, current major holder, likeable guy...

How is it in the best interests of the DPWT to ban these players from their tournaments?
In a one of sense, he added to it. Because on his own he is insignificant. But if many did so, then the pgat is harmed, and so the top division of world golf is devalued. The product is devalued. Fans get less.
 

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So you want all the LIV players to be excluded from all other golf events Phil?

Can you explain how that benefits pro golf, and those that follow it?

As Swango has already said try reading through earlier answers to the same questions you been asking over and over again. Only when either LiV changes or many more of the top players move over are opinions likely to change.
 

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Tell me why LIV golfers should be allowed to “leave” their home tours and go to another tour because of the levels of money given but then pick and chose what events they can also come back and play ?

Why should there be this small bunch of golfers getting everything they want ?

The players made a choice to go to a new tour and in doing so it meant they left another tour - their choice, they weren’t forced into it they all made the choice to follow the money.

Do you think it’s fair on those ET golfers that are fully committed to the tour then miss out with Mr LIV decides he wants to play in an event ?


The players leaving the two main tours didn’t care about pro golf , they didn’t care that they were diluting the viewing

Everything thats happened over the last 6 months always seems to be blamed on the PGAT or ET - yet it was all instigated by LIV - do you think you will ever blame them ?

All golfers pick and choose their events, do you even realise how contradictory your arguments are - players are switching between tours all the time - usually based on what prize money is available right?

Why can't LIV be part of that landscape? LIV is only a closed shop because two tours have shut down the opportunities for their players to play where they choose - it's well documented - LIV tried to negotiate with both the PGAT and DPWT - that would have seen golfers playing across all tours including LIV - they both turned down the opportunity - "It's dead in the water" was the thoughts right? But it wasn't, was it....
 
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